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historical foundation to the foregoing legends.[110]
Celsus writing late in the second century produced the first full-scale attack on Christianity.[103][111] Celsus' document has not survived but in the third century Origen replied to it, and what is known of Celsus' writing is through the responses of Origen.[103] According to Origen, Celsus accused Jesus of being a magician and a sorcerer. While the statements of Celsus may be seen as valuable, they have little historical value, given that the wording of the original writings can not be examined.[111]
The Dead Sea Scrolls are first century or older writings that show the language and customs of some Jews of Jesus' time.[112] Scholars such as Henry Chadwick see the similar uses of languages and viewpoints recorded in the New Testament and the Dead Sea Scrolls as valuable in showing that the New Testament portrays the first century period that it reports and is not a product of a later period.[113][114] However, the relationship between the Dead Sea scrolls and the historicity of Jesus has been the subject of highly controversial theories, and although new theories continue to appear, there is no overall scholarly agreement about their impact on the historicity of Jesus, despite the usefulness of the scrolls in shedding light on first-century Jewish traditions.[115][116]
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No helvetin surullista, että maailmassa on vielä hihhuleita.
Pliny the Younger (c.61 c.113), the provincial governor of Pontus and Bithynia, wrote to Emperor Trajan c. 112 concerning how to deal with Christians, who refused to worship the emperor, and instead worshiped "Christus". Charles Guignebert, who does not doubt that Jesus of the Gospels lived in Gallilee in the 1st century, nevertheless dismisses this letter as acceptable evidence for a historical Jesus.[102]
Uskokaa kolmiyhteiseen Jumalaan ja tehkää parannus synneistänne niin pelastutte kadotukselta!
Thallus, of whom very little is known, and none of whose writings survive, wrote a history allegedly around the middle to late first century CE, to which Eusebius referred. Julius Africanus, writing c.221 CE, links a reference in the third book of the History to the period of darkness described in the crucifixion accounts in three of the Gospels.[103][104] It is not known whether Thallus made any mention to the crucifixion accounts; if he did and the dating is accurate, it would be the earliest noncanonical reference to a gospel episode, but its usefulness in determining the historicity of Jesus is uncertain.[103][105][106]
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Phlegon of Tralles, 80140 CE: similar to Thallus, Julius Africanus mentions a historian named Phlegon who wrote a chronicle of history around 140 CE, where he records: "Phlegon records that, in the time of Tiberius Caesar, at full moon, there was a full eclipse of the sun from the sixth to the ninth hour." (Africanus, Chronography, 18:1) Phlegon is also mentioned by Origen (an early church theologian and scholar, born in Alexandria): "Now Phlegon, in the thirteenth or fourteenth book, I think, of his Chronicles, not only ascribed to Jesus a knowledge of future events ... but also testified that the result corresponded to His predictions." (Origen Against Celsus, Book 2, Chapter 14) "And with regard to the eclipse in the time of Tiberius Caesar, in whose reign Jesus appears to have been crucified, and the great earthquakes which then took place ..." (Origen Against Celsus, Book 2, Chapter 33) "Jesus, while alive, was of no assistance to himself, but that he arose after death, and exhibited the marks of his punishment, and showed how his hands had been pierced by nails." (Origen Against Celsus, Book 2, Chapter 59).[107] However, Eusebius in The Chronicon (written in the 4th century CE) records what Phlegon said verbatim. "Now, in the fourth year of the 202nd Olympiad [32 CE], a great eclipse of the sun occurred at the sixth hour [noon] that excelled every other before it, turning the day into such darkness of night that the stars could be seen in heaven, and the earth moved in Bithynia, toppling many buildings in the city of Nicaea." Phlegon never mentions Jesus or the 3 hour darkness. He also mentions a solar eclipse, which can not occur at Passover. Apart from the year (which may be a corruption), this description fits an earthquake and eclipse that occurred in North West Turkey on November, 29 CE.[108]
Media ei kerro maailman 365 miljoonasta vainotusta kristitysta. Todellinen kristinusko eli Raamatun mukainen ja Vapahtajamme on globalistieliitin vihan kohde. Se palvoo s@@tanaa. Kummalla puolella olet?
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Jumalan pilkkaa, siellä oli kultaista vasikkaa, hallava hevosta, viimeinen eli pyhä ehtoollinen.. Jumalan pilkkaa.. W0k3tusgkulttuur1n avulla. Koko show teki ilmeisesti juutalainen Thomas Jolly.
Turha nostaa juutalaista kuitenkaan vihan kohteeksi. Gobalistieliitti nostattaa myos antisemitismia ja palvoo s@@tanaa
Philo, who dies after 40 CE, is mainly important for the light he throws on certain modes of thought and phraseology found again in some of the Apostles. Eusebius[109] indeed preserves a legend that Philo had met Peter in Rome during his mission to the Emperor Caius; moreover, that in his work on the contemplative life he describes the life of the Church of Alexandria, rather than that of the Essenes and Therapeutae. But it is hardly probable that Philo had heard enough of Jesus and His followers to give an historical foundation to the foregoing legends.[110]
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Christian origins scholar Craig A. Evans argued that there are also archeological finds that corroborate aspects of the time of Jesus mentioned in the surviving sources, such as context from Nazareth, the High Priest Caiaphas' ossuary, numerous synagogue buildings, and Jehohanan, a crucified victim who had a Jewish burial after execution.[50][51] Written sources and archeologist Ken Dark's excavations on Nazareth correlate with Jesus' existence, Joseph and Jesus' occupation as craftworkers, presence of literacy, existence of synagogues, Gospel accounts relating to Nazareth, and other Roman period sources on Nazareth.[52]
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However, evangelical New Testament scholars like Craig Blomberg argue that the source material on Jesus does correlate significantly with historical data.[note 11]
With at least 14 sources by believers and nonbelievers within a century of the crucifixion, there is much more evidence available for Jesus than for other notable people from 1st century Galilee.[56] Non-Christian sources do exist and they corroborate some details of the life of Jesus that are also found in New Testament sources.[33] Classicist-numismatist Michael Grant argued that when the New Testament is analyzed with the same criteria used by historians on ancient writings that contain historical material, Jesus's existence cannot be denied any more than secular figures whose existence is never questioned.[57]
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Pauline epistlesedit
The seven Pauline epistles considered by scholarly consensus to be genuine were written in a span of a decade starting in the late 40s (i.e., approximately 20 to 30 years after the generally accepted time period of Jesus's death) and are the earliest surviving Christian texts that include information about Jesus.[40] Although Paul the Apostle provides relatively little biographical information about Jesus[71] and states that he never knew Jesus personally, he does make it clear that he considers Jesus to have been a real person[note 13] and a Jew.[72][73][74][75][note 14] Moreover, he interacted with eyewitnesses of Jesus since he wrote about meeting and knowing James, the brother of Jesus[76][note 15][note 10] and Jesus's apostles Peter[78][note 16] and John.[80] Additionally, there are independent sources (Mark, John, Paul, Josephus) affirming that Jesus actually had brothers
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Olympia-aate on kai pohjimmiltaan pakanallinen. Mutta onhan kisoissa kristittyjä urheilijoita, esim.tehdään ristinmerkkejä ennen suoritusta ja suorituksen jälkeen kiitetään Luojaa.
Oletteko muuten ajatelleet, että tämä ristinmerkki tehdään risti väärinpäin otsa - keskelle rintakehää - molemille sivuille -> muodostaa nurinpäin olevan ristin, ei kristinuskon symbolina olevaa ristiä. Mikä uskonto on tämän tavan lanseerannut?
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Te kristityt ootte ihan sekaisin.
Craig A. Evans and Ehrman argue that Paul's letters are among the earliest sources that provide a direct link to people who lived with and knew Jesus since Paul was personally acquainted with Peter and John, two of Jesus's original disciples, and James, the brother of Jesus.[46][78] Paul's first meeting with Peter was around 36 AD.[78] Paul is the earliest surviving source to document Jesus' death by crucifixion and his conversion occurred two years after this event.[40] Paul mentioned details in his letters such as that Jesus was a Jew, born of the line of David, and had biological brothers.[40] According to Simon Gathercole, Paul's description of Jesus's life on Earth, his personality, and family tend to establish that Paul regarded Jesus as a natural person, rather than an allegorical figure.[82]
Non-Christian sourcesedit
Josephus and Tacitusedit
Main articles: Josephus on Jesus and Tacitus on Jesus
Non-Christian sources used to study and establish the historicity of Jesus include the c. first century Jewish historian Josephus and Roman historian Tacitus. These sources are compared to Christian sources, such as the Pauline letters and synoptic gospels, and are usually independent of each other; that is, the Jewish sources do not draw upon the Roman sources. Similarities and differences between these sources are used in the authentication process.[83][84][85][86] From these two independent sources alone, certain facts about Jesus can be adduced: that he existed, his personal name was Jesus, he was called a messiah, he had a brother named James, he won over Jews and gentiles, Jewish leaders had unfavorable opinions of him, Pontius Pilate decided his execution, he was executed by crucifixion, and he was executed during Pilate's governorship.[33] Josephus and Tacitus agree on four sequential points: a movement was started by Jesus, he was executed by Pontius Pilate, his movement continued after his death, and that a group of "Christians" still existed; analogous to common knowledge of founders and their followers like Plato and Platonists.[87] Josephus was personally involved in Galilee when he was the commander of Jewish forces during the revolt against Roman occupation and trained 65,000 troops in the region.[88]
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Mitä Pariisin olympialaisten avajaisissa nähtiin?
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Te kristityt ootte ihan sekaisin.
Taidat itse tulla nyt vähän jälkijunassa. Näitähän paljastellaan ihan tahallaan jo, tietävät siis, että moni tajuaa tämän symboliikan. Miksiköhän ne muuten niin tekevät?
Surullista hyvin surullista...