Käärijä ja Bojan fiilistelyketju

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However, during Eurovision, K. also indirectly flirted with Marco Mengoni by posting Marco's photo and commenting: "Does anyone know if he's single?".

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Among other things, the journalist who wrote the article, as well as being happy and hypothesizing a future story between Marco and K., also stated that K. was 19 years old and, strangely, also the Italian Eurovision commentator said that K. was 19 years old.

🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼

But then again, one of the members of the Italian Eurovision jury stated in a newspaper article he wrote after the competition that he liked the entry from CZECHOSLOVAKIA (Luke Black) so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. This dude (ancient, no age racism but you could tell he was not exactly of a modern mindset from the article) also called Käärijä a clown and in general spoke really badly about him (and other entries, including Croatia and Sweden) & lamented the fact that the jury's opinions don't count more (!).

Most people, even the ones directly involved like the commentators seem to be very poorly informed about the other entries, and almost making fun of them and the whole competition (not even in a nice way like the Brits for example). Obviously not including the Italian entry which is always considered "serious music" and superior to everyone else...

(Sorry but having lived in Italy for 20 years and being a life long ESC fan, this really pisses me off)

Suomeksi yhteenveto: en tykkää yhtään italialaisten suhtautumisesta viisuihin ja voisin paasata siitä seuraavat 5 tuntia, mutta säästän teidät siltä 😉

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However, during Eurovision, K. also indirectly flirted with Marco Mengoni by posting Marco's photo and commenting: "Does anyone know if he's single?".

V

Among other things, the journalist who wrote the article, as well as being happy and hypothesizing a future story between Marco and K., also stated that K. was 19 years old and, strangely, also the Italian Eurovision commentator said that K. was 19 years old.

🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼

But then again, one of the members of the Italian Eurovision jury stated in a newspaper article he wrote after the competition that he liked the entry from CZECHOSLOVAKIA (Luke Black) so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. This dude (ancient, no age racism but you could tell he was not exactly of a modern mindset from the article) also called Käärijä a clown and in general spoke really badly about him (and other entries, including Croatia and Sweden) & lamented the fact that the jury's opinions don't count more (!).

Most people, even the ones directly involved like the commentators seem to be very poorly informed about the other entries, and almost making fun of them and the whole competition (not even in a nice way like the Brits for example). Obviously not including the Italian entry which is always considered "serious music" and superior to everyone else...

(Sorry but having lived in Italy for 20 years and being a life long ESC fan, this really pisses me off)

Suomeksi yhteenveto: en tykkää yhtään italialaisten suhtautumisesta viisuihin ja voisin paasata siitä seuraavat 5 tuntia, mutta säästän teidät siltä 😉

Enkä halua että heitätte minut Jankkarellalle 😂

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Vähän iso ero miten k katselee t ja miten katselee bojania.

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Minua kiinnostaisi, mikä on eniten "gay-henkistä"/LGBT-ystävällisintä mitä Jokerit on tehnyt muissa, konservatiivisemmissa Balkanin maissa kuin Slovenia. Serbiassa ei ehkä liehuisi Pride-lippu? Balkanin maissa miespusut ovat yleensä kulttuurisesti okei eivätkä "homoa", mutta mites perseen puristelu tai nännien nipistely yms. :) Kiinnostaisi LadySLO:n näkemys tai jos täällä on yhä serbialaisiakin mukana.

They've only had a few concerts in Serbia before this year. I think there is even no proper recording of their concert from Exit 2022 festival. At least I can't find it anywhere. Then there was that weird performance on TV where they are jumping on trampolines. Am I missing any others?

Then this year's concerts I'm sure you've seen all of them online.

As far as I remember, there was never a rainbow flag in the Serbian and Croatian concerts. That means, no fan has given one to them at a concert there.

I don't think there was any cheekyness between the guys on stage either, no.

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Not sure if the clip from this show was already posted.

B's reaction towards the end is 😂

https://www.tiktok.com/@negovorivavecotem_/video/7273465165339708704

Hi LadySLO! I've been wondering: How big a star is Bojan in Slovenia? Meaning, is he the kind of celebrity who "everyone" knows, as it seems he's been on television quite a lot. Is he generally more known than Joker Out?

Yes, I think most people know him, including people who don't know his music or the band. As you mentioned, he's been on a lot of TV shows, prime-time shows that have high visibility, he also hosted the national ESC and pre-selection, he's acted in that TV series, he appeared in a few commercials.... 

I personally knew him as the host etc as well. I did know he was in a band, but I saw him on TV so many times before I actually started paying attention to his music. It wasn't until one of their songs appeared in a major telecom company advertisement that I noticed their music is good.

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Minua kiinnostaisi, mikä on eniten "gay-henkistä"/LGBT-ystävällisintä mitä Jokerit on tehnyt muissa, konservatiivisemmissa Balkanin maissa kuin Slovenia. Serbiassa ei ehkä liehuisi Pride-lippu? Balkanin maissa miespusut ovat yleensä kulttuurisesti okei eivätkä "homoa", mutta mites perseen puristelu tai nännien nipistely yms. :) Kiinnostaisi LadySLO:n näkemys tai jos täällä on yhä serbialaisiakin mukana.

They've only had a few concerts in Serbia before this year. I think there is even no proper recording of their concert from Exit 2022 festival. At least I can't find it anywhere. Then there was that weird performance on TV where they are jumping on trampolines. Am I missing any others?

Then this year's concerts I'm sure you've seen all of them online.

As far as I remember, there was never a rainbow flag in the Serbian and Croatian concerts. That means, no fan has given one to them at a concert there.

I don't think there was any cheekyness between the guys on stage either, no.

Thanks! I wonder how it will pan out in a place like Poland where they have a whole bunch of shows, the country is very conservative but like in most European countries, the youth is probably still much less homophobic (I assume),

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However, during Eurovision, K. also indirectly flirted with Marco Mengoni by posting Marco's photo and commenting: "Does anyone know if he's single?".

V

Among other things, the journalist who wrote the article, as well as being happy and hypothesizing a future story between Marco and K., also stated that K. was 19 years old and, strangely, also the Italian Eurovision commentator said that K. was 19 years old.

🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼

But then again, one of the members of the Italian Eurovision jury stated in a newspaper article he wrote after the competition that he liked the entry from CZECHOSLOVAKIA (Luke Black) so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. This dude (ancient, no age racism but you could tell he was not exactly of a modern mindset from the article) also called Käärijä a clown and in general spoke really badly about him (and other entries, including Croatia and Sweden) & lamented the fact that the jury's opinions don't count more (!).

Most people, even the ones directly involved like the commentators seem to be very poorly informed about the other entries, and almost making fun of them and the whole competition (not even in a nice way like the Brits for example). Obviously not including the Italian entry which is always considered "serious music" and superior to everyone else...

(Sorry but having lived in Italy for 20 years and being a life long ESC fan, this really pisses me off)

Suomeksi yhteenveto: en tykkää yhtään italialaisten suhtautumisesta viisuihin ja voisin paasata siitä seuraavat 5 tuntia, mutta säästän teidät siltä 😉

You are absolutely right. But those with a young mentality (like me) know how to appreciate different things and from different countries. There would be a need for the "old" ones to learn to be less parochial and more open abroad. And I apologize for the Italian people who have offended K.

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Onko musafiilistely ketju nyt poistettu, mikähän syy?

Modet, mitä helvettiä nyt taas???!!! 🤬

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However, during Eurovision, K. also indirectly flirted with Marco Mengoni by posting Marco's photo and commenting: "Does anyone know if he's single?".

V

Among other things, the journalist who wrote the article, as well as being happy and hypothesizing a future story between Marco and K., also stated that K. was 19 years old and, strangely, also the Italian Eurovision commentator said that K. was 19 years old.

🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼

But then again, one of the members of the Italian Eurovision jury stated in a newspaper article he wrote after the competition that he liked the entry from CZECHOSLOVAKIA (Luke Black) so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. This dude (ancient, no age racism but you could tell he was not exactly of a modern mindset from the article) also called Käärijä a clown and in general spoke really badly about him (and other entries, including Croatia and Sweden) & lamented the fact that the jury's opinions don't count more (!).

Most people, even the ones directly involved like the commentators seem to be very poorly informed about the other entries, and almost making fun of them and the whole competition (not even in a nice way like the Brits for example). Obviously not including the Italian entry which is always considered "serious music" and superior to everyone else...

(Sorry but having lived in Italy for 20 years and being a life long ESC fan, this really pisses me off)

Suomeksi yhteenveto: en tykkää yhtään italialaisten suhtautumisesta viisuihin ja voisin paasata siitä seuraavat 5 tuntia, mutta säästän teidät siltä 😉

You are absolutely right. But those with a young mentality (like me) know how to appreciate different things and from different countries. There would be a need for the "old" ones to learn to be less parochial and more open abroad. And I apologize for the Italian people who have offended K.

Of course I meant that I apologize to K., not to whoever offended him, but the translator misinterpreted my words.

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Not sure if the clip from this show was already posted.

B's reaction towards the end is 😂

https://www.tiktok.com/@negovorivavecotem_/video/7273465165339708704

Hi LadySLO! I've been wondering: How big a star is Bojan in Slovenia? Meaning, is he the kind of celebrity who "everyone" knows, as it seems he's been on television quite a lot. Is he generally more known than Joker Out?

Yes, I think most people know him, including people who don't know his music or the band. As you mentioned, he's been on a lot of TV shows, prime-time shows that have high visibility, he also hosted the national ESC and pre-selection, he's acted in that TV series, he appeared in a few commercials.... 

I personally knew him as the host etc as well. I did know he was in a band, but I saw him on TV so many times before I actually started paying attention to his music. It wasn't until one of their songs appeared in a major telecom company advertisement that I noticed their music is good.

Thank you! This is very interesting. No wonder he has had some projects as a solo artist. From my point of view, as a new foreign fan, Bojan seems really committed to the band right now. What do you think?

Laitoin kokeeksi erään örinäviestin. Oli aamupv lähes tunnin tallella. Jotkut ehti kommentoida, sit hävis nekin. Eilen illalla se hävis kolme kertaa. Ihmettelen vaan.

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Minua kiinnostaisi, mikä on eniten "gay-henkistä"/LGBT-ystävällisintä mitä Jokerit on tehnyt muissa, konservatiivisemmissa Balkanin maissa kuin Slovenia. Serbiassa ei ehkä liehuisi Pride-lippu? Balkanin maissa miespusut ovat yleensä kulttuurisesti okei eivätkä "homoa", mutta mites perseen puristelu tai nännien nipistely yms. :) Kiinnostaisi LadySLO:n näkemys tai jos täällä on yhä serbialaisiakin mukana.

They've only had a few concerts in Serbia before this year. I think there is even no proper recording of their concert from Exit 2022 festival. At least I can't find it anywhere. Then there was that weird performance on TV where they are jumping on trampolines. Am I missing any others?

Then this year's concerts I'm sure you've seen all of them online.

As far as I remember, there was never a rainbow flag in the Serbian and Croatian concerts. That means, no fan has given one to them at a concert there.

I don't think there was any cheekyness between the guys on stage either, no.

Thanks! I wonder how it will pan out in a place like Poland where they have a whole bunch of shows, the country is very conservative but like in most European countries, the youth is probably still much less homophobic (I assume),

Yeah, Poland will be interesting. I trust the guys know what they're doing and they do their "homework".

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https://www.tumblr.com/punainen-marli/727238502640730112?source=share

Vähän iso ero miten k katselee t ja miten katselee bojania.

Tästä tuli mieleen kuinka paljon Tavastia on saanut huomiota ja ilmaista markkinointia ulkomaita myöten :D Eipä tiennyt Tavastia tätä etukäteen, kun K keikan buukkas ;D

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Laitoin kokeeksi erään örinäviestin. Oli aamupv lähes tunnin tallella. Jotkut ehti kommentoida, sit hävis nekin. Eilen illalla se hävis kolme kertaa. Ihmettelen vaan.

Tätä ihmettelen minäkin. Itseasiassa olit jäljillä kuulemassasi, who knows? Edelleen sivuprojektisinkku?

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Not sure if the clip from this show was already posted.

B's reaction towards the end is 😂

https://www.tiktok.com/@negovorivavecotem_/video/7273465165339708704

Hi LadySLO! I've been wondering: How big a star is Bojan in Slovenia? Meaning, is he the kind of celebrity who "everyone" knows, as it seems he's been on television quite a lot. Is he generally more known than Joker Out?

Yes, I think most people know him, including people who don't know his music or the band. As you mentioned, he's been on a lot of TV shows, prime-time shows that have high visibility, he also hosted the national ESC and pre-selection, he's acted in that TV series, he appeared in a few commercials.... 

I personally knew him as the host etc as well. I did know he was in a band, but I saw him on TV so many times before I actually started paying attention to his music. It wasn't until one of their songs appeared in a major telecom company advertisement that I noticed their music is good.

Thank you! This is very interesting. No wonder he has had some projects as a solo artist. From my point of view, as a new foreign fan, Bojan seems really committed to the band right now. What do you think?

Yes, absolutely. Even though they are so young, it feels to me like they have already been through a lot in terms of changes in the band. As you know, two members were replaced. They also broke up for a while. If I remember correctly, they had some "creative differences" with Kris. Not sure if you guys know about this. That's when B tried solo career. But from what I remember what he said in some interview is that he very quickly realized that he works better in a team, and they got back together. I guess they were able to work out those differences too and the rest is history.

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However, during Eurovision, K. also indirectly flirted with Marco Mengoni by posting Marco's photo and commenting: "Does anyone know if he's single?".

V

Among other things, the journalist who wrote the article, as well as being happy and hypothesizing a future story between Marco and K., also stated that K. was 19 years old and, strangely, also the Italian Eurovision commentator said that K. was 19 years old.

🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼

But then again, one of the members of the Italian Eurovision jury stated in a newspaper article he wrote after the competition that he liked the entry from CZECHOSLOVAKIA (Luke Black) so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. This dude (ancient, no age racism but you could tell he was not exactly of a modern mindset from the article) also called Käärijä a clown and in general spoke really badly about him (and other entries, including Croatia and Sweden) & lamented the fact that the jury's opinions don't count more (!).

Most people, even the ones directly involved like the commentators seem to be very poorly informed about the other entries, and almost making fun of them and the whole competition (not even in a nice way like the Brits for example). Obviously not including the Italian entry which is always considered "serious music" and superior to everyone else...

(Sorry but having lived in Italy for 20 years and being a life long ESC fan, this really pisses me off)

Suomeksi yhteenveto: en tykkää yhtään italialaisten suhtautumisesta viisuihin ja voisin paasata siitä seuraavat 5 tuntia, mutta säästän teidät siltä 😉

You are absolutely right. But those with a young mentality (like me) know how to appreciate different things and from different countries. There would be a need for the "old" ones to learn to be less parochial and more open abroad. And I apologize for the Italian people who have offended K.

Yes I have many mostly younger (under 30) Italian friends who love ESC and I have definitely seen a huge change compared to 10 or even 5 years ago. I guess what really infuriates me is that ESC is supposed to be about celebrating unity and a kind of coming together of the different cultures in Europe, not about your country being the best and the rest being shit 😅.

The funny thing is that San Marino has a totally different approach to ESC. They love it and the commentators in their national TV are amazing and clearly really enthusiastic about the whole thing.

For many years when Italy was not participating, I followed ESC on San Marino TV and continued to do so even after they started showing it on RAI because I really cannot stand the RAI commentators.

Now that they stream it I just watch on YouTube so I there's no ad breaks 😁.

Sorry for the off topic/lupaan lopettaa jankkaamisen tähän viestiin 😉

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Not sure if the clip from this show was already posted.

B's reaction towards the end is 😂

https://www.tiktok.com/@negovorivavecotem_/video/7273465165339708704

Hi LadySLO! I've been wondering: How big a star is Bojan in Slovenia? Meaning, is he the kind of celebrity who "everyone" knows, as it seems he's been on television quite a lot. Is he generally more known than Joker Out?

Yes, I think most people know him, including people who don't know his music or the band. As you mentioned, he's been on a lot of TV shows, prime-time shows that have high visibility, he also hosted the national ESC and pre-selection, he's acted in that TV series, he appeared in a few commercials.... 

I personally knew him as the host etc as well. I did know he was in a band, but I saw him on TV so many times before I actually started paying attention to his music. It wasn't until one of their songs appeared in a major telecom company advertisement that I noticed their music is good.

Thank you! This is very interesting. No wonder he has had some projects as a solo artist. From my point of view, as a new foreign fan, Bojan seems really committed to the band right now. What do you think?

Yes, absolutely. Even though they are so young, it feels to me like they have already been through a lot in terms of changes in the band. As you know, two members were replaced. They also broke up for a while. If I remember correctly, they had some "creative differences" with Kris. Not sure if you guys know about this. That's when B tried solo career. But from what I remember what he said in some interview is that he very quickly realized that he works better in a team, and they got back together. I guess they were able to work out those differences too and the rest is history.

When was the break, was it after Umazane misli?

Jos joku haluaa perehtyä slovenialaisten miesten keskimittaan, urheilumeriitteihin ja slaavilaiseen kauneuteen, suosittelen Slovenia-Suomi lentopallo-ottelua tänään kakkosella alkaen klo 17.

 

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Mulle tuli eilen sellainen ajatus että mitä jos K on ihan suunnitellusti tähdännyt homoerotiikkagenreen jo pidemmän aikaa ja B oli tavallaan välikappale siinä. Näinköhän B:stä on loputtomiin kiva tulla vedetyksi somessa mukaan jos Kärtsyn projektit jatkuu samanlaisina. Siellä on kuitenkin Balkanilla pääyleisö nuoria naisia jotka haaveilee Bojanista ja muistakin JO:n pojista. 🤔

Täällä roikun täytenä JO- ja Bojan-fanina, mutta ai että ärsyttää tämän tyyppiset viestit.

K saa toteuttaa itseään ihan millä tavalla haluaa ilman että täytyy ajatella, voiko joku fanilauma jossain yhdistää hänet johonkuhun tai vääntää asiasta jonkinlaista draamaa.

B on aikuinen mies, ei uhri, ei avuton, ei alaikäinen eikä hänen puolestaan tarvitse suuttua tai loukkaantua. Kyllä, hänellä on paniikkihäiriö, joka todennäköisesti on oireillut aiemminkin, kun on siihen suuntaan vihjaillut aiemmissa haastatteluissa, mutta ihan jokainen asia netissä ei varmasti siihen vaikuta. Ja vaikka vaikuttaisikin, on joidenkin asioiden kanssa vain opittava tulemaan toimeen, koska maailma on täynnä ilkeitä ihmisiä typerine kommentte,ineen. Riittää, kun itse katsoo, ettei omilla toimillaan tee mitään loukkaavaa, mutta B:n puolesta ei tarvitse olla joka välissä loukkaantumassa ja miettimässä, voiko tämä asia häntä satuttaa vai ei. B tekee varmasti sellaisia ratkaisuja omassa elämässään, että nämä triggeröivät asiat eivät häneen vaikuta, ja hyvä niin. Fanien tehtävä on tukea, ei keksiä omia ratkaisuja ja vääntää jotain ylimääräistä draamaa joka asiasta.

Onhan K ilmeisesti jo aiemmin joutunut rajoittamaan itsensä toteuttamista B takia, jos oletetaan että hän joutui lopettamaan baby ym kommentoinnit ja kuolaamiset Bojanille. Aika itsevarmasti teet oletuksia B kyvystä selvitä ongelmista. Eikä 24 vuotias kovin aikuinen ole🙂uskon kyllä itsekin, että B llä on niin paljon tukijoukkoja, että hän pärjää, mutta miksi oletetaan, ettei mitkään K kytköksen takia tulevat lieveilmiöt häntä yhtään koskaan harmita.

Minusta K haki Bojanista partneria, jonka kanssa voi "toteuttaa itseään", mutta B ei ollut valmis menemään julkisesti niin pitkälle. Tommysta K löysi yhteistyökumppanin, jonka kanssa voi helpommin toteuttaa tämäntyyppistä taiteellista suuntaa. Ja tämä ei siis tarkoita, etteivätkö K&B voi olla läheisiä ystäviä, mutta uran puolesta heillä on eri suunta ja tyyli mitä haluavat toteuttaa.

Kyllä K:n ja B:n ystävyys ja klikkaaminen oli ihan todellista puolin ja toisin. Heillä synkkasi sen verran hyvin samalla aaltopituudella, että se sitten siirtyi kaikkiin heistä postattuihin somevideoihin. Miksi K (tai itseasiassa varmaan kyllä Jere?) halusi itse lähteä heittämään läppää siihen bromancesuuntaan en tiedä, mutta en nähnyt niissä videoissa mitään epäaitoa vaan se oli heidän keskinäistä huumoriaan. Ei sitä voi verrata K:n ja Tommyn promovideoihin, koska tässä on kyseessä musavideon teko ja sen promomateriaali, ei ystävysten keskinäinen läpän heitto. Tommy on provokaattori eikä pelkää kohauttaa, mutta B ei artistina ole lainkaan samanlainen enkä siksi ikinä voisi kuvitella että K ja B tekisi edes yhteistyönä mitään vastaavaa kuin icip.

Tommy on kylläkin hyvin monella kentällä operoiva taiteilija (mm. arvostettu käsitetaiteilija), joten en missään nimessä menisi luokittelemaan vain "provokaattoriksi". Virolaisille arka asia on myös Tommyn peittelemätön vironvenäläisyys Kopli-taustoineen. Hän tekee näkyväksi juuri sen, minkä virallinen Viro yrittää itsestään abjektina ulkoistaa. Tyypin visuaalisesti rikkaat ja visionääriset videot ovat myös ihan muuta kuin perusmusavideot biisin myynnin edistämiseksi.