Uskotko, että pyramidit rakennettiin haudoiksi?
Ja uskotko, että orjat naputteli kivet halki pikku taltoillaan?
Kommentit (3697)
Ehkä paras yleistiedelehti Science julkaisi äskettäin 6.1.2022 asiaan liittyvän artikkelin "Deciphering Egypt’s Great Pyramid" jossa kerrotaan arkeologi Talletin kirjasta "The Red Sea Scrolls". Hän löysi 2013 Vanhan kuningaskunnan aikaisia papyruksia pyramidien rakentamisesta. Tämä on tiedemiesten uutteran työn tulosta!
Suuri pyramidi on epäilyksettä faarao Khufun teettämä, vain ajankohta on hieman auki mutta välillä 2500-2600 eaa. Pyramidien kivien työstämiseen tarvittua kuparia tuotettiin ja sulatettiin valtavia määriä ainakin 3000 sulattamossa.
https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abl9126?casa_token=7Wu…
Without a doubt, the Great Pyramid was commissioned by the Old Kingdom pharaoh Khufu (Cheops). The British Museum and Cairo’s Egyptian Museum give his regnal dates as 2589 to 2566 BCE. Egyptologists Mark Lehner, who has conducted fieldwork at Giza for four decades, and Zahi Hawass, a former Egyptian government official in charge of Giza, argued for the later range of 2509 to 2483 BCE in their massive 2017 book, Giza and the Pyramids. But another high-profile Egyptologist, Pierre Tallet, whose pioneering fieldwork on the Red Sea coast of Egypt began in 2011, favors the earlier range of 2633 to 2605 BCE, derived from a recent astronomically based chronological model for the Old Kingdom.
In The Red Sea Scrolls, written by Tallet in close collaboration with Lehner, the authors use this latter date range. Egyptian dates before the Late Period (circa 660 BCE), they note, “are much debated, especially so for the earliest periods.”
This landmark, elegantly illustrated book is the first to reveal how the raw materials used in the Great Pyramid’s construction—copper, for instance, derived from pharaonic mining expeditions to the remote deserts of Sinai—were transported to Giza via Egyptian ports during the reigns of Sneferu and his son Khufu. Boats to transport miners and materials were built in the Nile Valley, dismantled, and then arduously conveyed to the Red Sea via tracks across the Eastern Desert. After use, the boats were stored at Red Sea ports in artificial galleries. “Egyptians, rather than being inexperienced and reluctant sailors, seem to have acquired a high level of experience in maritime navigation,” note the authors.
Timber, meanwhile, was likely ferried from the Nile Valley for use in furnaces to smelt copper ore on a vast scale. At one site in southern Sinai, discovered by Tallet in 2009, at least 3000 smelting units are estimated to have existed, one of them up to 80 m long.
The papyrus archive found by Tallet in 2013 at Wadi el-Jarf on the western Red Sea coast greatly excited Egyptologists. Old Kingdom papyri are extremely rare because papyrus does not last long in humid conditions. Yet more than a thousand fragments were discovered by Tallet’s team, probably deriving from at least 30 rolls—“the oldest known explicitly dated Egyptian documents,” which frequently mention Khufu and the pyramid-building project. They survived because they were abandoned in the galleries instead of being officially archived in the Nile Valley—presumably because they were no longer regarded as being of any use.
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Ehkä paras yleistiedelehti Science julkaisi äskettäin 6.1.2022 asiaan liittyvän artikkelin "Deciphering Egypt’s Great Pyramid" jossa kerrotaan arkeologi Talletin kirjasta "The Red Sea Scrolls". Hän löysi 2013 Vanhan kuningaskunnan aikaisia papyruksia pyramidien rakentamisesta. Tämä on tiedemiesten uutteran työn tulosta!
Suuri pyramidi on epäilyksettä faarao Khufun teettämä, vain ajankohta on hieman auki mutta välillä 2500-2600 eaa. Pyramidien kivien työstämiseen tarvittua kuparia tuotettiin ja sulatettiin valtavia määriä ainakin 3000 sulattamossa.
https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abl9126?casa_token=7Wu…
Without a doubt, the Great Pyramid was commissioned by the Old Kingdom pharaoh Khufu (Cheops). The British Museum and Cairo’s Egyptian Museum give his regnal dates as 2589 to 2566 BCE. Egyptologists Mark Lehner, who has conducted fieldwork at Giza for four decades, and Zahi Hawass, a former Egyptian government official in charge of Giza, argued for the later range of 2509 to 2483 BCE in their massive 2017 book, Giza and the Pyramids. But another high-profile Egyptologist, Pierre Tallet, whose pioneering fieldwork on the Red Sea coast of Egypt began in 2011, favors the earlier range of 2633 to 2605 BCE, derived from a recent astronomically based chronological model for the Old Kingdom.
In The Red Sea Scrolls, written by Tallet in close collaboration with Lehner, the authors use this latter date range. Egyptian dates before the Late Period (circa 660 BCE), they note, “are much debated, especially so for the earliest periods.”
This landmark, elegantly illustrated book is the first to reveal how the raw materials used in the Great Pyramid’s construction—copper, for instance, derived from pharaonic mining expeditions to the remote deserts of Sinai—were transported to Giza via Egyptian ports during the reigns of Sneferu and his son Khufu. Boats to transport miners and materials were built in the Nile Valley, dismantled, and then arduously conveyed to the Red Sea via tracks across the Eastern Desert. After use, the boats were stored at Red Sea ports in artificial galleries. “Egyptians, rather than being inexperienced and reluctant sailors, seem to have acquired a high level of experience in maritime navigation,” note the authors.
Timber, meanwhile, was likely ferried from the Nile Valley for use in furnaces to smelt copper ore on a vast scale. At one site in southern Sinai, discovered by Tallet in 2009, at least 3000 smelting units are estimated to have existed, one of them up to 80 m long.
The papyrus archive found by Tallet in 2013 at Wadi el-Jarf on the western Red Sea coast greatly excited Egyptologists. Old Kingdom papyri are extremely rare because papyrus does not last long in humid conditions. Yet more than a thousand fragments were discovered by Tallet’s team, probably deriving from at least 30 rolls—“the oldest known explicitly dated Egyptian documents,” which frequently mention Khufu and the pyramid-building project. They survived because they were abandoned in the galleries instead of being officially archived in the Nile Valley—presumably because they were no longer regarded as being of any use.
Egypitläiset ovat aivan hyvin voineet korjata pyramidin uloimpaa kerrosta, mutta eivät missään nimessä ole sitä rakentaneet, eikä suunnitelleet. Tämä on fakta.
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Ehkä paras yleistiedelehti Science julkaisi äskettäin 6.1.2022 asiaan liittyvän artikkelin "Deciphering Egypt’s Great Pyramid" jossa kerrotaan arkeologi Talletin kirjasta "The Red Sea Scrolls". Hän löysi 2013 Vanhan kuningaskunnan aikaisia papyruksia pyramidien rakentamisesta. Tämä on tiedemiesten uutteran työn tulosta!
Suuri pyramidi on epäilyksettä faarao Khufun teettämä, vain ajankohta on hieman auki mutta välillä 2500-2600 eaa. Pyramidien kivien työstämiseen tarvittua kuparia tuotettiin ja sulatettiin valtavia määriä ainakin 3000 sulattamossa.
https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abl9126?casa_token=7Wu…
Without a doubt, the Great Pyramid was commissioned by the Old Kingdom pharaoh Khufu (Cheops). The British Museum and Cairo’s Egyptian Museum give his regnal dates as 2589 to 2566 BCE. Egyptologists Mark Lehner, who has conducted fieldwork at Giza for four decades, and Zahi Hawass, a former Egyptian government official in charge of Giza, argued for the later range of 2509 to 2483 BCE in their massive 2017 book, Giza and the Pyramids. But another high-profile Egyptologist, Pierre Tallet, whose pioneering fieldwork on the Red Sea coast of Egypt began in 2011, favors the earlier range of 2633 to 2605 BCE, derived from a recent astronomically based chronological model for the Old Kingdom.
In The Red Sea Scrolls, written by Tallet in close collaboration with Lehner, the authors use this latter date range. Egyptian dates before the Late Period (circa 660 BCE), they note, “are much debated, especially so for the earliest periods.”
This landmark, elegantly illustrated book is the first to reveal how the raw materials used in the Great Pyramid’s construction—copper, for instance, derived from pharaonic mining expeditions to the remote deserts of Sinai—were transported to Giza via Egyptian ports during the reigns of Sneferu and his son Khufu. Boats to transport miners and materials were built in the Nile Valley, dismantled, and then arduously conveyed to the Red Sea via tracks across the Eastern Desert. After use, the boats were stored at Red Sea ports in artificial galleries. “Egyptians, rather than being inexperienced and reluctant sailors, seem to have acquired a high level of experience in maritime navigation,” note the authors.
Timber, meanwhile, was likely ferried from the Nile Valley for use in furnaces to smelt copper ore on a vast scale. At one site in southern Sinai, discovered by Tallet in 2009, at least 3000 smelting units are estimated to have existed, one of them up to 80 m long.
The papyrus archive found by Tallet in 2013 at Wadi el-Jarf on the western Red Sea coast greatly excited Egyptologists. Old Kingdom papyri are extremely rare because papyrus does not last long in humid conditions. Yet more than a thousand fragments were discovered by Tallet’s team, probably deriving from at least 30 rolls—“the oldest known explicitly dated Egyptian documents,” which frequently mention Khufu and the pyramid-building project. They survived because they were abandoned in the galleries instead of being officially archived in the Nile Valley—presumably because they were no longer regarded as being of any use.
Egypitläiset ovat aivan hyvin voineet korjata pyramidin uloimpaa kerrosta, mutta eivät missään nimessä ole sitä rakentaneet, eikä suunnitelleet. Tämä on fakta.
Väitteesi ei vakuuta yhtään, missä perustelut? Science-lehdellä on fakta.
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Ehkä paras yleistiedelehti Science julkaisi äskettäin 6.1.2022 asiaan liittyvän artikkelin "Deciphering Egypt’s Great Pyramid" jossa kerrotaan arkeologi Talletin kirjasta "The Red Sea Scrolls". Hän löysi 2013 Vanhan kuningaskunnan aikaisia papyruksia pyramidien rakentamisesta. Tämä on tiedemiesten uutteran työn tulosta!
Suuri pyramidi on epäilyksettä faarao Khufun teettämä, vain ajankohta on hieman auki mutta välillä 2500-2600 eaa. Pyramidien kivien työstämiseen tarvittua kuparia tuotettiin ja sulatettiin valtavia määriä ainakin 3000 sulattamossa.
https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abl9126?casa_token=7Wu…
Without a doubt, the Great Pyramid was commissioned by the Old Kingdom pharaoh Khufu (Cheops). The British Museum and Cairo’s Egyptian Museum give his regnal dates as 2589 to 2566 BCE. Egyptologists Mark Lehner, who has conducted fieldwork at Giza for four decades, and Zahi Hawass, a former Egyptian government official in charge of Giza, argued for the later range of 2509 to 2483 BCE in their massive 2017 book, Giza and the Pyramids. But another high-profile Egyptologist, Pierre Tallet, whose pioneering fieldwork on the Red Sea coast of Egypt began in 2011, favors the earlier range of 2633 to 2605 BCE, derived from a recent astronomically based chronological model for the Old Kingdom.
In The Red Sea Scrolls, written by Tallet in close collaboration with Lehner, the authors use this latter date range. Egyptian dates before the Late Period (circa 660 BCE), they note, “are much debated, especially so for the earliest periods.”
This landmark, elegantly illustrated book is the first to reveal how the raw materials used in the Great Pyramid’s construction—copper, for instance, derived from pharaonic mining expeditions to the remote deserts of Sinai—were transported to Giza via Egyptian ports during the reigns of Sneferu and his son Khufu. Boats to transport miners and materials were built in the Nile Valley, dismantled, and then arduously conveyed to the Red Sea via tracks across the Eastern Desert. After use, the boats were stored at Red Sea ports in artificial galleries. “Egyptians, rather than being inexperienced and reluctant sailors, seem to have acquired a high level of experience in maritime navigation,” note the authors.
Timber, meanwhile, was likely ferried from the Nile Valley for use in furnaces to smelt copper ore on a vast scale. At one site in southern Sinai, discovered by Tallet in 2009, at least 3000 smelting units are estimated to have existed, one of them up to 80 m long.
The papyrus archive found by Tallet in 2013 at Wadi el-Jarf on the western Red Sea coast greatly excited Egyptologists. Old Kingdom papyri are extremely rare because papyrus does not last long in humid conditions. Yet more than a thousand fragments were discovered by Tallet’s team, probably deriving from at least 30 rolls—“the oldest known explicitly dated Egyptian documents,” which frequently mention Khufu and the pyramid-building project. They survived because they were abandoned in the galleries instead of being officially archived in the Nile Valley—presumably because they were no longer regarded as being of any use.
Egypitläiset ovat aivan hyvin voineet korjata pyramidin uloimpaa kerrosta, mutta eivät missään nimessä ole sitä rakentaneet, eikä suunnitelleet. Tämä on fakta.
Totta.
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Ehkä paras yleistiedelehti Science julkaisi äskettäin 6.1.2022 asiaan liittyvän artikkelin "Deciphering Egypt’s Great Pyramid" jossa kerrotaan arkeologi Talletin kirjasta "The Red Sea Scrolls". Hän löysi 2013 Vanhan kuningaskunnan aikaisia papyruksia pyramidien rakentamisesta. Tämä on tiedemiesten uutteran työn tulosta!
Suuri pyramidi on epäilyksettä faarao Khufun teettämä, vain ajankohta on hieman auki mutta välillä 2500-2600 eaa. Pyramidien kivien työstämiseen tarvittua kuparia tuotettiin ja sulatettiin valtavia määriä ainakin 3000 sulattamossa.
https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abl9126?casa_token=7Wu…
Without a doubt, the Great Pyramid was commissioned by the Old Kingdom pharaoh Khufu (Cheops). The British Museum and Cairo’s Egyptian Museum give his regnal dates as 2589 to 2566 BCE. Egyptologists Mark Lehner, who has conducted fieldwork at Giza for four decades, and Zahi Hawass, a former Egyptian government official in charge of Giza, argued for the later range of 2509 to 2483 BCE in their massive 2017 book, Giza and the Pyramids. But another high-profile Egyptologist, Pierre Tallet, whose pioneering fieldwork on the Red Sea coast of Egypt began in 2011, favors the earlier range of 2633 to 2605 BCE, derived from a recent astronomically based chronological model for the Old Kingdom.
In The Red Sea Scrolls, written by Tallet in close collaboration with Lehner, the authors use this latter date range. Egyptian dates before the Late Period (circa 660 BCE), they note, “are much debated, especially so for the earliest periods.”
This landmark, elegantly illustrated book is the first to reveal how the raw materials used in the Great Pyramid’s construction—copper, for instance, derived from pharaonic mining expeditions to the remote deserts of Sinai—were transported to Giza via Egyptian ports during the reigns of Sneferu and his son Khufu. Boats to transport miners and materials were built in the Nile Valley, dismantled, and then arduously conveyed to the Red Sea via tracks across the Eastern Desert. After use, the boats were stored at Red Sea ports in artificial galleries. “Egyptians, rather than being inexperienced and reluctant sailors, seem to have acquired a high level of experience in maritime navigation,” note the authors.
Timber, meanwhile, was likely ferried from the Nile Valley for use in furnaces to smelt copper ore on a vast scale. At one site in southern Sinai, discovered by Tallet in 2009, at least 3000 smelting units are estimated to have existed, one of them up to 80 m long.
The papyrus archive found by Tallet in 2013 at Wadi el-Jarf on the western Red Sea coast greatly excited Egyptologists. Old Kingdom papyri are extremely rare because papyrus does not last long in humid conditions. Yet more than a thousand fragments were discovered by Tallet’s team, probably deriving from at least 30 rolls—“the oldest known explicitly dated Egyptian documents,” which frequently mention Khufu and the pyramid-building project. They survived because they were abandoned in the galleries instead of being officially archived in the Nile Valley—presumably because they were no longer regarded as being of any use.
Egypitläiset ovat aivan hyvin voineet korjata pyramidin uloimpaa kerrosta, mutta eivät missään nimessä ole sitä rakentaneet, eikä suunnitelleet. Tämä on fakta.
Väitteesi ei vakuuta yhtään, missä perustelut? Science-lehdellä on fakta.
Jos haluat samanlaisia perusteluita mitä itse suurimmaksi osaksi käytät, niin ne tulee tässä: 🤣🤣🤣
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Ehkä paras yleistiedelehti Science julkaisi äskettäin 6.1.2022 asiaan liittyvän artikkelin "Deciphering Egypt’s Great Pyramid" jossa kerrotaan arkeologi Talletin kirjasta "The Red Sea Scrolls". Hän löysi 2013 Vanhan kuningaskunnan aikaisia papyruksia pyramidien rakentamisesta. Tämä on tiedemiesten uutteran työn tulosta!
Suuri pyramidi on epäilyksettä faarao Khufun teettämä, vain ajankohta on hieman auki mutta välillä 2500-2600 eaa. Pyramidien kivien työstämiseen tarvittua kuparia tuotettiin ja sulatettiin valtavia määriä ainakin 3000 sulattamossa.
https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abl9126?casa_token=7Wu…
Without a doubt, the Great Pyramid was commissioned by the Old Kingdom pharaoh Khufu (Cheops). The British Museum and Cairo’s Egyptian Museum give his regnal dates as 2589 to 2566 BCE. Egyptologists Mark Lehner, who has conducted fieldwork at Giza for four decades, and Zahi Hawass, a former Egyptian government official in charge of Giza, argued for the later range of 2509 to 2483 BCE in their massive 2017 book, Giza and the Pyramids. But another high-profile Egyptologist, Pierre Tallet, whose pioneering fieldwork on the Red Sea coast of Egypt began in 2011, favors the earlier range of 2633 to 2605 BCE, derived from a recent astronomically based chronological model for the Old Kingdom.
In The Red Sea Scrolls, written by Tallet in close collaboration with Lehner, the authors use this latter date range. Egyptian dates before the Late Period (circa 660 BCE), they note, “are much debated, especially so for the earliest periods.”
This landmark, elegantly illustrated book is the first to reveal how the raw materials used in the Great Pyramid’s construction—copper, for instance, derived from pharaonic mining expeditions to the remote deserts of Sinai—were transported to Giza via Egyptian ports during the reigns of Sneferu and his son Khufu. Boats to transport miners and materials were built in the Nile Valley, dismantled, and then arduously conveyed to the Red Sea via tracks across the Eastern Desert. After use, the boats were stored at Red Sea ports in artificial galleries. “Egyptians, rather than being inexperienced and reluctant sailors, seem to have acquired a high level of experience in maritime navigation,” note the authors.
Timber, meanwhile, was likely ferried from the Nile Valley for use in furnaces to smelt copper ore on a vast scale. At one site in southern Sinai, discovered by Tallet in 2009, at least 3000 smelting units are estimated to have existed, one of them up to 80 m long.
The papyrus archive found by Tallet in 2013 at Wadi el-Jarf on the western Red Sea coast greatly excited Egyptologists. Old Kingdom papyri are extremely rare because papyrus does not last long in humid conditions. Yet more than a thousand fragments were discovered by Tallet’s team, probably deriving from at least 30 rolls—“the oldest known explicitly dated Egyptian documents,” which frequently mention Khufu and the pyramid-building project. They survived because they were abandoned in the galleries instead of being officially archived in the Nile Valley—presumably because they were no longer regarded as being of any use.
Ratkaistu! Tämän jälkeen on turha enää väitellä että kuka, miksi ja milloin rakensi suuren pyramidin.
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Ehkä paras yleistiedelehti Science julkaisi äskettäin 6.1.2022 asiaan liittyvän artikkelin "Deciphering Egypt’s Great Pyramid" jossa kerrotaan arkeologi Talletin kirjasta "The Red Sea Scrolls". Hän löysi 2013 Vanhan kuningaskunnan aikaisia papyruksia pyramidien rakentamisesta. Tämä on tiedemiesten uutteran työn tulosta!
Suuri pyramidi on epäilyksettä faarao Khufun teettämä, vain ajankohta on hieman auki mutta välillä 2500-2600 eaa. Pyramidien kivien työstämiseen tarvittua kuparia tuotettiin ja sulatettiin valtavia määriä ainakin 3000 sulattamossa.
https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abl9126?casa_token=7Wu…
Without a doubt, the Great Pyramid was commissioned by the Old Kingdom pharaoh Khufu (Cheops). The British Museum and Cairo’s Egyptian Museum give his regnal dates as 2589 to 2566 BCE. Egyptologists Mark Lehner, who has conducted fieldwork at Giza for four decades, and Zahi Hawass, a former Egyptian government official in charge of Giza, argued for the later range of 2509 to 2483 BCE in their massive 2017 book, Giza and the Pyramids. But another high-profile Egyptologist, Pierre Tallet, whose pioneering fieldwork on the Red Sea coast of Egypt began in 2011, favors the earlier range of 2633 to 2605 BCE, derived from a recent astronomically based chronological model for the Old Kingdom.
In The Red Sea Scrolls, written by Tallet in close collaboration with Lehner, the authors use this latter date range. Egyptian dates before the Late Period (circa 660 BCE), they note, “are much debated, especially so for the earliest periods.”
This landmark, elegantly illustrated book is the first to reveal how the raw materials used in the Great Pyramid’s construction—copper, for instance, derived from pharaonic mining expeditions to the remote deserts of Sinai—were transported to Giza via Egyptian ports during the reigns of Sneferu and his son Khufu. Boats to transport miners and materials were built in the Nile Valley, dismantled, and then arduously conveyed to the Red Sea via tracks across the Eastern Desert. After use, the boats were stored at Red Sea ports in artificial galleries. “Egyptians, rather than being inexperienced and reluctant sailors, seem to have acquired a high level of experience in maritime navigation,” note the authors.
Timber, meanwhile, was likely ferried from the Nile Valley for use in furnaces to smelt copper ore on a vast scale. At one site in southern Sinai, discovered by Tallet in 2009, at least 3000 smelting units are estimated to have existed, one of them up to 80 m long.
The papyrus archive found by Tallet in 2013 at Wadi el-Jarf on the western Red Sea coast greatly excited Egyptologists. Old Kingdom papyri are extremely rare because papyrus does not last long in humid conditions. Yet more than a thousand fragments were discovered by Tallet’s team, probably deriving from at least 30 rolls—“the oldest known explicitly dated Egyptian documents,” which frequently mention Khufu and the pyramid-building project. They survived because they were abandoned in the galleries instead of being officially archived in the Nile Valley—presumably because they were no longer regarded as being of any use.
Minunkin puolesta tämä on nyt selvä juttu kun on siltä ajalta oikeita egyptiläisiä papyrus-dokumentteja joissa toistuvasti puhutaan faarao Khufusta ja pyramidin rakentamisesta.
Pitääpä laittaa sukuhautaan hesari jota voi joku lukea 450å vuoden päästä
Ymmärtävät sitten että mitä tapahtui vuonna 2022
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Pitääpä laittaa sukuhautaan hesari jota voi joku lukea 45000 vuoden päästä
Ymmärtävät sitten että mitä tapahtui vuonna 2022
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Ehkä paras yleistiedelehti Science julkaisi äskettäin 6.1.2022 asiaan liittyvän artikkelin "Deciphering Egypt’s Great Pyramid" jossa kerrotaan arkeologi Talletin kirjasta "The Red Sea Scrolls". Hän löysi 2013 Vanhan kuningaskunnan aikaisia papyruksia pyramidien rakentamisesta. Tämä on tiedemiesten uutteran työn tulosta!
Suuri pyramidi on epäilyksettä faarao Khufun teettämä, vain ajankohta on hieman auki mutta välillä 2500-2600 eaa. Pyramidien kivien työstämiseen tarvittua kuparia tuotettiin ja sulatettiin valtavia määriä ainakin 3000 sulattamossa.
https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abl9126?casa_token=7Wu…
Without a doubt, the Great Pyramid was commissioned by the Old Kingdom pharaoh Khufu (Cheops). The British Museum and Cairo’s Egyptian Museum give his regnal dates as 2589 to 2566 BCE. Egyptologists Mark Lehner, who has conducted fieldwork at Giza for four decades, and Zahi Hawass, a former Egyptian government official in charge of Giza, argued for the later range of 2509 to 2483 BCE in their massive 2017 book, Giza and the Pyramids. But another high-profile Egyptologist, Pierre Tallet, whose pioneering fieldwork on the Red Sea coast of Egypt began in 2011, favors the earlier range of 2633 to 2605 BCE, derived from a recent astronomically based chronological model for the Old Kingdom.
In The Red Sea Scrolls, written by Tallet in close collaboration with Lehner, the authors use this latter date range. Egyptian dates before the Late Period (circa 660 BCE), they note, “are much debated, especially so for the earliest periods.”
This landmark, elegantly illustrated book is the first to reveal how the raw materials used in the Great Pyramid’s construction—copper, for instance, derived from pharaonic mining expeditions to the remote deserts of Sinai—were transported to Giza via Egyptian ports during the reigns of Sneferu and his son Khufu. Boats to transport miners and materials were built in the Nile Valley, dismantled, and then arduously conveyed to the Red Sea via tracks across the Eastern Desert. After use, the boats were stored at Red Sea ports in artificial galleries. “Egyptians, rather than being inexperienced and reluctant sailors, seem to haave acquired a high level of experience in maritime navigation,” note the authors.
Timber, meanwhile, was likely ferried from the Nile Valley for use in furnaces to smelt copper ore on a vast scale. At one site in southern Sinai, discovered by Tallet in 2009, at least 3000 smelting units are estimated to have existed, one of them up to 80 m long.
The papyrus archive found by Tallet in 2013 at Wadi el-Jarf on the western Red Sea coast greatly excited Egyptologists. Old Kingdom papyri are extremely rare because papyrus does not last long in humid conditions. Yet more than a thousand fragments were discovered by Tallet’s team, probably deriving from at least 30 rolls—“the oldest known explicitly dated Egyptian documents,” which frequently mention Khufu and the pyramid-building project. They survived because they were abandoned in the galleries instead of being officially archived in the Nile Valley—presumably because they were no longer regarded as being of any use.
Ai taas toi repaleinen papyrus mistä joka toinen merkki puuttuu. Tämä on ollut usein muka todisteena pyramidien rakentamisesta, mutta yhtä usein debunkattu. Ei tuota voi kukaan tosissaan ottaa. 🙄
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Ehkä paras yleistiedelehti Science julkaisi äskettäin 6.1.2022 asiaan liittyvän artikkelin "Deciphering Egypt’s Great Pyramid" jossa kerrotaan arkeologi Talletin kirjasta "The Red Sea Scrolls". Hän löysi 2013 Vanhan kuningaskunnan aikaisia papyruksia pyramidien rakentamisesta. Tämä on tiedemiesten uutteran työn tulosta!
Suuri pyramidi on epäilyksettä faarao Khufun teettämä, vain ajankohta on hieman auki mutta välillä 2500-2600 eaa. Pyramidien kivien työstämiseen tarvittua kuparia tuotettiin ja sulatettiin valtavia määriä ainakin 3000 sulattamossa.
https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abl9126?casa_token=7Wu…
Without a doubt, the Great Pyramid was commissioned by the Old Kingdom pharaoh Khufu (Cheops). The British Museum and Cairo’s Egyptian Museum give his regnal dates as 2589 to 2566 BCE. Egyptologists Mark Lehner, who has conducted fieldwork at Giza for four decades, and Zahi Hawass, a former Egyptian government official in charge of Giza, argued for the later range of 2509 to 2483 BCE in their massive 2017 book, Giza and the Pyramids. But another high-profile Egyptologist, Pierre Tallet, whose pioneering fieldwork on the Red Sea coast of Egypt began in 2011, favors the earlier range of 2633 to 2605 BCE, derived from a recent astronomically based chronological model for the Old Kingdom.
In The Red Sea Scrolls, written by Tallet in close collaboration with Lehner, the authors use this latter date range. Egyptian dates before the Late Period (circa 660 BCE), they note, “are much debated, especially so for the earliest periods.”
This landmark, elegantly illustrated book is the first to reveal how the raw materials used in the Great Pyramid’s construction—copper, for instance, derived from pharaonic mining expeditions to the remote deserts of Sinai—were transported to Giza via Egyptian ports during the reigns of Sneferu and his son Khufu. Boats to transport miners and materials were built in the Nile Valley, dismantled, and then arduously conveyed to the Red Sea via tracks across the Eastern Desert. After use, the boats were stored at Red Sea ports in artificial galleries. “Egyptians, rather than being inexperienced and reluctant sailors, seem to haave acquired a high level of experience in maritime navigation,” note the authors.
Timber, meanwhile, was likely ferried from the Nile Valley for use in furnaces to smelt copper ore on a vast scale. At one site in southern Sinai, discovered by Tallet in 2009, at least 3000 smelting units are estimated to have existed, one of them up to 80 m long.
The papyrus archive found by Tallet in 2013 at Wadi el-Jarf on the western Red Sea coast greatly excited Egyptologists. Old Kingdom papyri are extremely rare because papyrus does not last long in humid conditions. Yet more than a thousand fragments were discovered by Tallet’s team, probably deriving from at least 30 rolls—“the oldest known explicitly dated Egyptian documents,” which frequently mention Khufu and the pyramid-building project. They survived because they were abandoned in the galleries instead of being officially archived in the Nile Valley—presumably because they were no longer regarded as being of any use.
Ai taas toi repaleinen papyrus mistä joka toinen merkki puuttuu. Tämä on ollut usein muka todisteena pyramidien rakentamisesta, mutta yhtä usein debunkattu. Ei tuota voi kukaan tosissaan ottaa. 🙄
Haha. Taas hymiö-debunkkaajan epätoivoinen yritys. Lue se Talletin kirja jos englanti ja korkeatasoinen tiede on sinulle ylipäätään mahdollista. On nimittäin aikamoinen ero siihen Dunnin sepustukseen. Koetapa sitten kirjoittaa noita "ajatuksiasi" Science-lehteen.
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Aika mielentiintoista muuten se, että esidynastisesta haudasta on löytynyt kovasta graniitista tehty täydellisen virheetön ruukku ja myös vinksahtaneita ja alkeellisia saviruukkuja. Ne saviruukut on ihan ymmärrettäviä, kun esidynastiseen aikaan heillä ei ollut käytössä muuta kuin puutikkuja ja jotain kivenmurikoita millä tekivät käyttöesineitään. Arkeologit ovat kuitenkin ajoittaneet myös sen graniittiruukun siihen esidynastiseen aikaan kun samasta haudasta löytyi ja on siis ihan esillä museossa esidynastian aikaisena esineenä. Onko tuo siis arkeologien sanaton tunnustus siitä, että muinainen korkeakulttuuri on ollut olemassa, sillä eihän se ruukku voi mitenkään olla oikeasti puutikuilla tehty, vaan ihan selkeästi esinystastian aikaiset egyptiläiset ovat löytäneet sen ja ottaneet käyttöön.
Jos siis kysyt että uskonko alan parhaita tiedemiehiä vai Vauva-sivun Vierailijaa, niin vastaus on looginen, erittäin looginen.
Minä uskon Chris Dunnia enemmän kuin tiede-uskovaisia. Saathan sinä toki uskoa menneessä maailmassa yhä eläviä ja yhteen teoriaan jymähtäneitä horisevia ja dementian vaivaamia egyptologeja ja arkeologeja.
Niin. Arkeologeja vaivaa dementia, mutta Chris Dunn on järkevä kertoessaan, että molemmista päistä suljettuja kanavia pitkin johdettiin kemikaaleja vetyä tekemään ja vedystä polttamalla saatu energia sitten resonoitiin nykytieteelle tuntemattomalla tavalla ilmaiseksi energiaksi, joka lähetettiin eteenpäin nykytieteelle tuntemattomalla tavalla.
Ja sitten tuli koko maailman peittävä vedenpaisumus ja tuhosi kaiken tämän.
Järkeenkäypää. Antakaa tuolle koneistajalle Nobelin palkinto, kun on kumonnut koko nykyfysiikan.
Niin , nykytiede ei todellakaan tiedä kaikkea. Se ei ole vieläkään selvittänyt esim. mikä on painovoima, miten Tesla lähetti energiaa, miten pyramidit rakennettiin ja tuhansia ja tuhansia muita asioita. Luulisi, että tiedemiehet olisivat kiinnostuneita selvittämään miten energiaa lähetettiin pyramideista mutta eipä tunnu kiinnostavan.
Olen myös ihmetellyt, minkä takia tiedemiehet eivät ole lähteneet selvittämään sitä, miten paroni von Münchausen matkusti kuuhun, vaikka siitä on selvät todisteet aikalaislähteissä.
Miksi et sitten lähde tutkimaan asiaa? Koska olet ilm. olevinasi tiedemies.
Samasta syystä kuin miksi en lähde tutkimaan pyramidienergioita.
Ja omat tutkijanpäiväni ovat jo 10 vuotta takanapäin. Tosin viime viikolla tuli sähköpostiin viesti, jonka mukaan joku oli viitannut vanhaan paperiini.
Hyviä eläkepäiviä sitten muiden harrastusten parissa 😀
En minä eläkkeelle jäänyt, siirryin vain yritysmaailmaan, kun ei huvittanut tapella tutkimusrahoituksesta.
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Ehkä paras yleistiedelehti Science julkaisi äskettäin 6.1.2022 asiaan liittyvän artikkelin "Deciphering Egypt’s Great Pyramid" jossa kerrotaan arkeologi Talletin kirjasta "The Red Sea Scrolls". Hän löysi 2013 Vanhan kuningaskunnan aikaisia papyruksia pyramidien rakentamisesta. Tämä on tiedemiesten uutteran työn tulosta!
Suuri pyramidi on epäilyksettä faarao Khufun teettämä, vain ajankohta on hieman auki mutta välillä 2500-2600 eaa. Pyramidien kivien työstämiseen tarvittua kuparia tuotettiin ja sulatettiin valtavia määriä ainakin 3000 sulattamossa.
https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abl9126?casa_token=7Wu…
Without a doubt, the Great Pyramid was commissioned by the Old Kingdom pharaoh Khufu (Cheops). The British Museum and Cairo’s Egyptian Museum give his regnal dates as 2589 to 2566 BCE. Egyptologists Mark Lehner, who has conducted fieldwork at Giza for four decades, and Zahi Hawass, a former Egyptian government official in charge of Giza, argued for the later range of 2509 to 2483 BCE in their massive 2017 book, Giza and the Pyramids. But another high-profile Egyptologist, Pierre Tallet, whose pioneering fieldwork on the Red Sea coast of Egypt began in 2011, favors the earlier range of 2633 to 2605 BCE, derived from a recent astronomically based chronological model for the Old Kingdom.
In The Red Sea Scrolls, written by Tallet in close collaboration with Lehner, the authors use this latter date range. Egyptian dates before the Late Period (circa 660 BCE), they note, “are much debated, especially so for the earliest periods.”
This landmark, elegantly illustrated book is the first to reveal how the raw materials used in the Great Pyramid’s construction—copper, for instance, derived from pharaonic mining expeditions to the remote deserts of Sinai—were transported to Giza via Egyptian ports during the reigns of Sneferu and his son Khufu. Boats to transport miners and materials were built in the Nile Valley, dismantled, and then arduously conveyed to the Red Sea via tracks across the Eastern Desert. After use, the boats were stored at Red Sea ports in artificial galleries. “Egyptians, rather than being inexperienced and reluctant sailors, seem to have acquired a high level of experience in maritime navigation,” note the authors.
Timber, meanwhile, was likely ferried from the Nile Valley for use in furnaces to smelt copper ore on a vast scale. At one site in southern Sinai, discovered by Tallet in 2009, at least 3000 smelting units are estimated to have existed, one of them up to 80 m long.
The papyrus archive found by Tallet in 2013 at Wadi el-Jarf on the western Red Sea coast greatly excited Egyptologists. Old Kingdom papyri are extremely rare because papyrus does not last long in humid conditions. Yet more than a thousand fragments were discovered by Tallet’s team, probably deriving from at least 30 rolls—“the oldest known explicitly dated Egyptian documents,” which frequently mention Khufu and the pyramid-building project. They survived because they were abandoned in the galleries instead of being officially archived in the Nile Valley—presumably because they were no longer regarded as being of any use.
Tämä papyrus on ollut usein esillä tiedelehdissä väärällä otsikolla, eli kerrotaan, että nyt on löytynyt ratkaisu siihen kuinka pyramidit rakennettiin, mutta ei, tässä ei todellakaan kerrota kuinka pyramideja rakennettiin ja se selvästi tämänkin tiedejutun lopussa sanotaan, siinä kerrotaan kuinka kiviä louhittiin ja kuinka niitä kuljetettiin Niiliä pitkin ja tuotiin satamaan ja egyptologit sitten päättelivät, että näin pyramidit sitten rakennettiin. Aika hataralla perustalla on arkeologia jos tuollaisilla arvailuilla tehdään jotain perusteellisia päätelmiä.
Voitte kuluttaa aikanne etsimällä netistä lisää todisteita muinaisista kirjoituksista pyramidien rakentamisesta, mutta ette niitä tule löytämään, sillä niitä ei ole ainakaan vielä kukaan tutkijakaan löytänyt.
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Ehkä paras yleistiedelehti Science julkaisi äskettäin 6.1.2022 asiaan liittyvän artikkelin "Deciphering Egypt’s Great Pyramid" jossa kerrotaan arkeologi Talletin kirjasta "The Red Sea Scrolls". Hän löysi 2013 Vanhan kuningaskunnan aikaisia papyruksia pyramidien rakentamisesta. Tämä on tiedemiesten uutteran työn tulosta!
Suuri pyramidi on epäilyksettä faarao Khufun teettämä, vain ajankohta on hieman auki mutta välillä 2500-2600 eaa. Pyramidien kivien työstämiseen tarvittua kuparia tuotettiin ja sulatettiin valtavia määriä ainakin 3000 sulattamossa.
https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abl9126?casa_token=7Wu…
Without a doubt, the Great Pyramid was commissioned by the Old Kingdom pharaoh Khufu (Cheops). The British Museum and Cairo’s Egyptian Museum give his regnal dates as 2589 to 2566 BCE. Egyptologists Mark Lehner, who has conducted fieldwork at Giza for four decades, and Zahi Hawass, a former Egyptian government official in charge of Giza, argued for the later range of 2509 to 2483 BCE in their massive 2017 book, Giza and the Pyramids. But another high-profile Egyptologist, Pierre Tallet, whose pioneering fieldwork on the Red Sea coast of Egypt began in 2011, favors the earlier range of 2633 to 2605 BCE, derived from a recent astronomically based chronological model for the Old Kingdom.
In The Red Sea Scrolls, written by Tallet in close collaboration with Lehner, the authors use this latter date range. Egyptian dates before the Late Period (circa 660 BCE), they note, “are much debated, especially so for the earliest periods.”
This landmark, elegantly illustrated book is the first to reveal how the raw materials used in the Great Pyramid’s construction—copper, for instance, derived from pharaonic mining expeditions to the remote deserts of Sinai—were transported to Giza via Egyptian ports during the reigns of Sneferu and his son Khufu. Boats to transport miners and materials were built in the Nile Valley, dismantled, and then arduously conveyed to the Red Sea via tracks across the Eastern Desert. After use, the boats were stored at Red Sea ports in artificial galleries. “Egyptians, rather than being inexperienced and reluctant sailors, seem to haave acquired a high level of experience in maritime navigation,” note the authors.
Timber, meanwhile, was likely ferried from the Nile Valley for use in furnaces to smelt copper ore on a vast scale. At one site in southern Sinai, discovered by Tallet in 2009, at least 3000 smelting units are estimated to have existed, one of them up to 80 m long.
The papyrus archive found by Tallet in 2013 at Wadi el-Jarf on the western Red Sea coast greatly excited Egyptologists. Old Kingdom papyri are extremely rare because papyrus does not last long in humid conditions. Yet more than a thousand fragments were discovered by Tallet’s team, probably deriving from at least 30 rolls—“the oldest known explicitly dated Egyptian documents,” which frequently mention Khufu and the pyramid-building project. They survived because they were abandoned in the galleries instead of being officially archived in the Nile Valley—presumably because they were no longer regarded as being of any use.
Ai taas toi repaleinen papyrus mistä joka toinen merkki puuttuu. Tämä on ollut usein muka todisteena pyramidien rakentamisesta, mutta yhtä usein debunkattu. Ei tuota voi kukaan tosissaan ottaa. 🙄
Haha. Taas hymiö-debunkkaajan epätoivoinen yritys. Lue se Talletin kirja jos englanti ja korkeatasoinen tiede on sinulle ylipäätään mahdollista. On nimittäin aikamoinen ero siihen Dunnin sepustukseen. Koetapa sitten kirjoittaa noita "ajatuksiasi" Science-lehteen.
The latter place was the harbour at Giza where Tallet BELIEVES the casing stones were transported. 🤣🤣🤣 Tosi tieteellistä.
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Ehkä paras yleistiedelehti Science julkaisi äskettäin 6.1.2022 asiaan liittyvän artikkelin "Deciphering Egypt’s Great Pyramid" jossa kerrotaan arkeologi Talletin kirjasta "The Red Sea Scrolls". Hän löysi 2013 Vanhan kuningaskunnan aikaisia papyruksia pyramidien rakentamisesta. Tämä on tiedemiesten uutteran työn tulosta!
Suuri pyramidi on epäilyksettä faarao Khufun teettämä, vain ajankohta on hieman auki mutta välillä 2500-2600 eaa. Pyramidien kivien työstämiseen tarvittua kuparia tuotettiin ja sulatettiin valtavia määriä ainakin 3000 sulattamossa.
https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abl9126?casa_token=7Wu…
Without a doubt, the Great Pyramid was commissioned by the Old Kingdom pharaoh Khufu (Cheops). The British Museum and Cairo’s Egyptian Museum give his regnal dates as 2589 to 2566 BCE. Egyptologists Mark Lehner, who has conducted fieldwork at Giza for four decades, and Zahi Hawass, a former Egyptian government official in charge of Giza, argued for the later range of 2509 to 2483 BCE in their massive 2017 book, Giza and the Pyramids. But another high-profile Egyptologist, Pierre Tallet, whose pioneering fieldwork on the Red Sea coast of Egypt began in 2011, favors the earlier range of 2633 to 2605 BCE, derived from a recent astronomically based chronological model for the Old Kingdom.
In The Red Sea Scrolls, written by Tallet in close collaboration with Lehner, the authors use this latter date range. Egyptian dates before the Late Period (circa 660 BCE), they note, “are much debated, especially so for the earliest periods.”
This landmark, elegantly illustrated book is the first to reveal how the raw materials used in the Great Pyramid’s construction—copper, for instance, derived from pharaonic mining expeditions to the remote deserts of Sinai—were transported to Giza via Egyptian ports during the reigns of Sneferu and his son Khufu. Boats to transport miners and materials were built in the Nile Valley, dismantled, and then arduously conveyed to the Red Sea via tracks across the Eastern Desert. After use, the boats were stored at Red Sea ports in artificial galleries. “Egyptians, rather than being inexperienced and reluctant sailors, seem to have acquired a high level of experience in maritime navigation,” note the authors.
Timber, meanwhile, was likely ferried from the Nile Valley for use in furnaces to smelt copper ore on a vast scale. At one site in southern Sinai, discovered by Tallet in 2009, at least 3000 smelting units are estimated to have existed, one of them up to 80 m long.
The papyrus archive found by Tallet in 2013 at Wadi el-Jarf on the western Red Sea coast greatly excited Egyptologists. Old Kingdom papyri are extremely rare because papyrus does not last long in humid conditions. Yet more than a thousand fragments were discovered by Tallet’s team, probably deriving from at least 30 rolls—“the oldest known explicitly dated Egyptian documents,” which frequently mention Khufu and the pyramid-building project. They survived because they were abandoned in the galleries instead of being officially archived in the Nile Valley—presumably because they were no longer regarded as being of any use.
Tämä papyrus on ollut usein esillä tiedelehdissä väärällä otsikolla, eli kerrotaan, että nyt on löytynyt ratkaisu siihen kuinka pyramidit rakennettiin, mutta ei, tässä ei todellakaan kerrota kuinka pyramideja rakennettiin ja se selvästi tämänkin tiedejutun lopussa sanotaan, siinä kerrotaan kuinka kiviä louhittiin ja kuinka niitä kuljetettiin Niiliä pitkin ja tuotiin satamaan ja egyptologit sitten päättelivät, että näin pyramidit sitten rakennettiin. Aika hataralla perustalla on arkeologia jos tuollaisilla arvailuilla tehdään jotain perusteellisia päätelmiä.
Voitte kuluttaa aikanne etsimällä netistä lisää todisteita muinaisista kirjoituksista pyramidien rakentamisesta, mutta ette niitä tule löytämään, sillä niitä ei ole ainakaan vielä kukaan tutkijakaan löytänyt.
Niin. Arkeologien pitäisi katsoa molemmista päistä tukittua kanavaa ja siitä päätellä, että sitä pitkin on kaadettu kemikaaleja sisään kammioon. Se vasta sitten on timantikova tieteellinen totuus.
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Ehkä paras yleistiedelehti Science julkaisi äskettäin 6.1.2022 asiaan liittyvän artikkelin "Deciphering Egypt’s Great Pyramid" jossa kerrotaan arkeologi Talletin kirjasta "The Red Sea Scrolls". Hän löysi 2013 Vanhan kuningaskunnan aikaisia papyruksia pyramidien rakentamisesta. Tämä on tiedemiesten uutteran työn tulosta!
Suuri pyramidi on epäilyksettä faarao Khufun teettämä, vain ajankohta on hieman auki mutta välillä 2500-2600 eaa. Pyramidien kivien työstämiseen tarvittua kuparia tuotettiin ja sulatettiin valtavia määriä ainakin 3000 sulattamossa.
https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abl9126?casa_token=7Wu…
Without a doubt, the Great Pyramid was commissioned by the Old Kingdom pharaoh Khufu (Cheops). The British Museum and Cairo’s Egyptian Museum give his regnal dates as 2589 to 2566 BCE. Egyptologists Mark Lehner, who has conducted fieldwork at Giza for four decades, and Zahi Hawass, a former Egyptian government official in charge of Giza, argued for the later range of 2509 to 2483 BCE in their massive 2017 book, Giza and the Pyramids. But another high-profile Egyptologist, Pierre Tallet, whose pioneering fieldwork on the Red Sea coast of Egypt began in 2011, favors the earlier range of 2633 to 2605 BCE, derived from a recent astronomically based chronological model for the Old Kingdom.
In The Red Sea Scrolls, written by Tallet in close collaboration with Lehner, the authors use this latter date range. Egyptian dates before the Late Period (circa 660 BCE), they note, “are much debated, especially so for the earliest periods.”
This landmark, elegantly illustrated book is the first to reveal how the raw materials used in the Great Pyramid’s construction—copper, for instance, derived from pharaonic mining expeditions to the remote deserts of Sinai—were transported to Giza via Egyptian ports during the reigns of Sneferu and his son Khufu. Boats to transport miners and materials were built in the Nile Valley, dismantled, and then arduously conveyed to the Red Sea via tracks across the Eastern Desert. After use, the boats were stored at Red Sea ports in artificial galleries. “Egyptians, rather than being inexperienced and reluctant sailors, seem to have acquired a high level of experience in maritime navigation,” note the authors.
Timber, meanwhile, was likely ferried from the Nile Valley for use in furnaces to smelt copper ore on a vast scale. At one site in southern Sinai, discovered by Tallet in 2009, at least 3000 smelting units are estimated to have existed, one of them up to 80 m long.
The papyrus archive found by Tallet in 2013 at Wadi el-Jarf on the western Red Sea coast greatly excited Egyptologists. Old Kingdom papyri are extremely rare because papyrus does not last long in humid conditions. Yet more than a thousand fragments were discovered by Tallet’s team, probably deriving from at least 30 rolls—“the oldest known explicitly dated Egyptian documents,” which frequently mention Khufu and the pyramid-building project. They survived because they were abandoned in the galleries instead of being officially archived in the Nile Valley—presumably because they were no longer regarded as being of any use.
Tämä papyrus on ollut usein esillä tiedelehdissä väärällä otsikolla, eli kerrotaan, että nyt on löytynyt ratkaisu siihen kuinka pyramidit rakennettiin, mutta ei, tässä ei todellakaan kerrota kuinka pyramideja rakennettiin ja se selvästi tämänkin tiedejutun lopussa sanotaan, siinä kerrotaan kuinka kiviä louhittiin ja kuinka niitä kuljetettiin Niiliä pitkin ja tuotiin satamaan ja egyptologit sitten päättelivät, että näin pyramidit sitten rakennettiin. Aika hataralla perustalla on arkeologia jos tuollaisilla arvailuilla tehdään jotain perusteellisia päätelmiä.
Voitte kuluttaa aikanne etsimällä netistä lisää todisteita muinaisista kirjoituksista pyramidien rakentamisesta, mutta ette niitä tule löytämään, sillä niitä ei ole ainakaan vielä kukaan tutkijakaan löytänyt.Niin. Arkeologien pitäisi katsoa molemmista päistä tukittua kanavaa ja siitä päätellä, että sitä pitkin on kaadettu kemikaaleja sisään kammioon. Se vasta sitten on timantikova tieteellinen totuus.
Though the diary does not specify where the stones were to be used or for what purpose, given the diary may date to what is widely considered the very end of Khufu's reign, Tallet believes they were most likely for cladding the outside of the Great Pyramid. 🤣🤣🤣
Kohta taas kivet jää jäljelle
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Ehkä paras yleistiedelehti Science julkaisi äskettäin 6.1.2022 asiaan liittyvän artikkelin "Deciphering Egypt’s Great Pyramid" jossa kerrotaan arkeologi Talletin kirjasta "The Red Sea Scrolls". Hän löysi 2013 Vanhan kuningaskunnan aikaisia papyruksia pyramidien rakentamisesta. Tämä on tiedemiesten uutteran työn tulosta!
Suuri pyramidi on epäilyksettä faarao Khufun teettämä, vain ajankohta on hieman auki mutta välillä 2500-2600 eaa. Pyramidien kivien työstämiseen tarvittua kuparia tuotettiin ja sulatettiin valtavia määriä ainakin 3000 sulattamossa.
https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abl9126?casa_token=7Wu…
Without a doubt, the Great Pyramid was commissioned by the Old Kingdom pharaoh Khufu (Cheops). The British Museum and Cairo’s Egyptian Museum give his regnal dates as 2589 to 2566 BCE. Egyptologists Mark Lehner, who has conducted fieldwork at Giza for four decades, and Zahi Hawass, a former Egyptian government official in charge of Giza, argued for the later range of 2509 to 2483 BCE in their massive 2017 book, Giza and the Pyramids. But another high-profile Egyptologist, Pierre Tallet, whose pioneering fieldwork on the Red Sea coast of Egypt began in 2011, favors the earlier range of 2633 to 2605 BCE, derived from a recent astronomically based chronological model for the Old Kingdom.
In The Red Sea Scrolls, written by Tallet in close collaboration with Lehner, the authors use this latter date range. Egyptian dates before the Late Period (circa 660 BCE), they note, “are much debated, especially so for the earliest periods.”
This landmark, elegantly illustrated book is the first to reveal how the raw materials used in the Great Pyramid’s construction—copper, for instance, derived from pharaonic mining expeditions to the remote deserts of Sinai—were transported to Giza via Egyptian ports during the reigns of Sneferu and his son Khufu. Boats to transport miners and materials were built in the Nile Valley, dismantled, and then arduously conveyed to the Red Sea via tracks across the Eastern Desert. After use, the boats were stored at Red Sea ports in artificial galleries. “Egyptians, rather than being inexperienced and reluctant sailors, seem to have acquired a high level of experience in maritime navigation,” note the authors.
Timber, meanwhile, was likely ferried from the Nile Valley for use in furnaces to smelt copper ore on a vast scale. At one site in southern Sinai, discovered by Tallet in 2009, at least 3000 smelting units are estimated to have existed, one of them up to 80 m long.
The papyrus archive found by Tallet in 2013 at Wadi el-Jarf on the western Red Sea coast greatly excited Egyptologists. Old Kingdom papyri are extremely rare because papyrus does not last long in humid conditions. Yet more than a thousand fragments were discovered by Tallet’s team, probably deriving from at least 30 rolls—“the oldest known explicitly dated Egyptian documents,” which frequently mention Khufu and the pyramid-building project. They survived because they were abandoned in the galleries instead of being officially archived in the Nile Valley—presumably because they were no longer regarded as being of any use.
Tämä papyrus on ollut usein esillä tiedelehdissä väärällä otsikolla, eli kerrotaan, että nyt on löytynyt ratkaisu siihen kuinka pyramidit rakennettiin, mutta ei, tässä ei todellakaan kerrota kuinka pyramideja rakennettiin ja se selvästi tämänkin tiedejutun lopussa sanotaan, siinä kerrotaan kuinka kiviä louhittiin ja kuinka niitä kuljetettiin Niiliä pitkin ja tuotiin satamaan ja egyptologit sitten päättelivät, että näin pyramidit sitten rakennettiin. Aika hataralla perustalla on arkeologia jos tuollaisilla arvailuilla tehdään jotain perusteellisia päätelmiä.
Voitte kuluttaa aikanne etsimällä netistä lisää todisteita muinaisista kirjoituksista pyramidien rakentamisesta, mutta ette niitä tule löytämään, sillä niitä ei ole ainakaan vielä kukaan tutkijakaan löytänyt.Niin. Arkeologien pitäisi katsoa molemmista päistä tukittua kanavaa ja siitä päätellä, että sitä pitkin on kaadettu kemikaaleja sisään kammioon. Se vasta sitten on timantikova tieteellinen totuus.
Kuinka selvästi tämä pitää sinulle sanoa? Tuossa papyruksessa kerrotaan kuinka Khufun aikaan kiviä hakattiin kalliosta ja kuinka niitä työstettiin ja kuljetettiin Niiliä pitkin, mutta mitään mainintaa ei ole pyramideista, ne on ainoastaan egyptologin ARVAILUJA. Mikään kivien kuljettelu ei ole todiste mistään kun ottaa huomioon, että Egyptissä rakennettiin ihan hirveä määrä temppeleitä ja vaikka mitä. Se että joku egyptologi arvelee, että kivet jotka kuljetettiin Niiliä pitkin jonnekin ja että ne ehkä voisivat olla pyramidin päällyskiviä, niin se ei ole todiste YHTÄÄN MISTÄÄN.
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Vierailija kirjoitti:
Ehkä paras yleistiedelehti Science julkaisi äskettäin 6.1.2022 asiaan liittyvän artikkelin "Deciphering Egypt’s Great Pyramid" jossa kerrotaan arkeologi Talletin kirjasta "The Red Sea Scrolls". Hän löysi 2013 Vanhan kuningaskunnan aikaisia papyruksia pyramidien rakentamisesta. Tämä on tiedemiesten uutteran työn tulosta!
Suuri pyramidi on epäilyksettä faarao Khufun teettämä, vain ajankohta on hieman auki mutta välillä 2500-2600 eaa. Pyramidien kivien työstämiseen tarvittua kuparia tuotettiin ja sulatettiin valtavia määriä ainakin 3000 sulattamossa.
https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abl9126?casa_token=7Wu…
Without a doubt, the Great Pyramid was commissioned by the Old Kingdom pharaoh Khufu (Cheops). The British Museum and Cairo’s Egyptian Museum give his regnal dates as 2589 to 2566 BCE. Egyptologists Mark Lehner, who has conducted fieldwork at Giza for four decades, and Zahi Hawass, a former Egyptian government official in charge of Giza, argued for the later range of 2509 to 2483 BCE in their massive 2017 book, Giza and the Pyramids. But another high-profile Egyptologist, Pierre Tallet, whose pioneering fieldwork on the Red Sea coast of Egypt began in 2011, favors the earlier range of 2633 to 2605 BCE, derived from a recent astronomically based chronological model for the Old Kingdom.
In The Red Sea Scrolls, written by Tallet in close collaboration with Lehner, the authors use this latter date range. Egyptian dates before the Late Period (circa 660 BCE), they note, “are much debated, especially so for the earliest periods.”
This landmark, elegantly illustrated book is the first to reveal how the raw materials used in the Great Pyramid’s construction—copper, for instance, derived from pharaonic mining expeditions to the remote deserts of Sinai—were transported to Giza via Egyptian ports during the reigns of Sneferu and his son Khufu. Boats to transport miners and materials were built in the Nile Valley, dismantled, and then arduously conveyed to the Red Sea via tracks across the Eastern Desert. After use, the boats were stored at Red Sea ports in artificial galleries. “Egyptians, rather than being inexperienced and reluctant sailors, seem to have acquired a high level of experience in maritime navigation,” note the authors.
Timber, meanwhile, was likely ferried from the Nile Valley for use in furnaces to smelt copper ore on a vast scale. At one site in southern Sinai, discovered by Tallet in 2009, at least 3000 smelting units are estimated to have existed, one of them up to 80 m long.
The papyrus archive found by Tallet in 2013 at Wadi el-Jarf on the western Red Sea coast greatly excited Egyptologists. Old Kingdom papyri are extremely rare because papyrus does not last long in humid conditions. Yet more than a thousand fragments were discovered by Tallet’s team, probably deriving from at least 30 rolls—“the oldest known explicitly dated Egyptian documents,” which frequently mention Khufu and the pyramid-building project. They survived because they were abandoned in the galleries instead of being officially archived in the Nile Valley—presumably because they were no longer regarded as being of any use.
Tämä papyrus on ollut usein esillä tiedelehdissä väärällä otsikolla, eli kerrotaan, että nyt on löytynyt ratkaisu siihen kuinka pyramidit rakennettiin, mutta ei, tässä ei todellakaan kerrota kuinka pyramideja rakennettiin ja se selvästi tämänkin tiedejutun lopussa sanotaan, siinä kerrotaan kuinka kiviä louhittiin ja kuinka niitä kuljetettiin Niiliä pitkin ja tuotiin satamaan ja egyptologit sitten päättelivät, että näin pyramidit sitten rakennettiin. Aika hataralla perustalla on arkeologia jos tuollaisilla arvailuilla tehdään jotain perusteellisia päätelmiä.
Voitte kuluttaa aikanne etsimällä netistä lisää todisteita muinaisista kirjoituksista pyramidien rakentamisesta, mutta ette niitä tule löytämään, sillä niitä ei ole ainakaan vielä kukaan tutkijakaan löytänyt.Niin. Arkeologien pitäisi katsoa molemmista päistä tukittua kanavaa ja siitä päätellä, että sitä pitkin on kaadettu kemikaaleja sisään kammioon. Se vasta sitten on timantikova tieteellinen totuus.
Kuinka selvästi tämä pitää sinulle sanoa? Tuossa papyruksessa kerrotaan kuinka Khufun aikaan kiviä hakattiin kalliosta ja kuinka niitä työstettiin ja kuljetettiin Niiliä pitkin, mutta mitään mainintaa ei ole pyramideista, ne on ainoastaan egyptologin ARVAILUJA. Mikään kivien kuljettelu ei ole todiste mistään kun ottaa huomioon, että Egyptissä rakennettiin ihan hirveä määrä temppeleitä ja vaikka mitä. Se että joku egyptologi arvelee, että kivet jotka kuljetettiin Niiliä pitkin jonnekin ja että ne ehkä voisivat olla pyramidin päällyskiviä, niin se ei ole todiste YHTÄÄN MISTÄÄN.
Mutta se, että koneistaja kertoo, että pyradimissa on tuotettu energiaa nykytieteelle tuntemattomalla tavalla todistaa sen, että näin myös oikeasti tapahtui.
Hyviä eläkepäiviä sitten muiden harrastusten parissa 😀