Biisien sanoituksia joissa ei ole mitää järkeä

Vierailija kirjoitti:

Eveliinan Tornado:

"Mut tänään ei oo huomista

Hengityksen tahdissa

Laita mut liikkuu, niinku tornado"

Toi liikkua kuin tornado. Tornadohan pyörii? Pistetäänkö laulussa akka pyörimään julmetusti? :D

Niin. Tanssin pyörteisiin.

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I can't remember if I cried

When I read about his widowed bride

Something touched me deep inside

The day the music died

So

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

And them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

Singin' this'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

--

Now, for ten years we've been on our own

And moss grows fat on a rolling stone

But, that's not how it used to be

When the jester sang for the king and queen

In a coat he borrowed from James Dean

And a voice that came from you and me

Oh and while the king was looking down

The jester stole his thorny crown

The courtroom was adjourned

No verdict was returned

And while Lennon read a book on Marx

The quartet practiced in the park

And we sang dirges in the dark

The day the music died

We were singin'

--

Helter skelter in a summer swelter

The birds flew off with a fallout shelter

Eight miles high and falling fast

It landed foul on the grass

The players tried for a forward pass

With the jester on the sidelines in a cast

Now the half-time air was sweet perfume

While sergeants played a marching tune

We all got up to dance

Oh, but we never got the chance

'Cause the players tried to take the field

The marching band refused to yield

Do you recall what was revealed

The day the music died?

We started singin'

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

And singin' this'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

Oh, and there we were all in one place

A generation lost in space

With no time left to start again

So come on Jack be nimble, Jack be quick

Jack Flash sat on a candlestick

'Cause fire is the devil's only friend

Oh and as I watched him on the stage

My hands were clenched in fists of rage

No angel born in Hell

Could break that Satan's spell

--

And as the flames climbed high into the night

To light the sacrificial rite

I saw Satan laughing with delight

The day the music died

He was singin'

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

Singin' this'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

I met a girl who sang the blues

And I asked her for some happy news

But she just smiled and turned away

I went down to the sacred store

Where I'd heard the music years before

But the man there said the music wouldn't play

And in the streets the children screamed

The lovers cried, and the poets dreamed

But not a word was spoken

The church bells all were broken

And the three men I admire most

The Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost

They caught the last train for the coast

The day the music died

And they were singing

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

And them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

Singin' this'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

They were singing

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

Singin' this'll be the day that I die

Jos joku oikeasti tajuaa mitä tässä sanotaan, kertokaa minullekin. Osaan englantia kyllä, mutta en silti tajua yhtään mikä tämän biisin pointti on. Olen kuullut kappaleen varmaan sata kertaa, eikä se ole yhtään selvempi nyt kuin ensimmäisellä kerralla. Olen tullut siihen tulokseen, että sen ainoa merkitys on tämä:

As the original manuscript for Don McLean's 1971 classic is sold at auction, fans may finally discover what his "Song of the Century" is really about. So what are the popular theories?

When people ask Don McLean what does American Pie really mean, he likes to reply: "It means I never have to work again."

”The day that music died” on 2.3.1959. Päivä jona Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens ja JP Richardson kuolivat lento-onnettomuudessa. Laulu kertoo siitä.

Anteeksi, tietysti 3.2.1959. Meni ajatus sekaisin 😁

Vierailija kirjoitti:

Hienon uran silti tehnyt.

Turhaa ylenmääräistä hypetystä, muuten se ei olisi edes menestynyt. 

Ja ei, se ei ole mitenkään erityisen hyvän näköinen, vaikkei rumakaan. Sanoisin normaali.

Turhan ylimieliset elkeet vaikka olisi oikeasti erilainen. Täytyy ihmetellä keneen semmoinen julkisuuskuva vetoaa, varmaan nykyajan narsistisiin ihmisiin?

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I can't remember if I cried

When I read about his widowed bride

Something touched me deep inside

The day the music died

So

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

And them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

Singin' this'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

--

Now, for ten years we've been on our own

And moss grows fat on a rolling stone

But, that's not how it used to be

When the jester sang for the king and queen

In a coat he borrowed from James Dean

And a voice that came from you and me

Oh and while the king was looking down

The jester stole his thorny crown

The courtroom was adjourned

No verdict was returned

And while Lennon read a book on Marx

The quartet practiced in the park

And we sang dirges in the dark

The day the music died

We were singin'

--

Helter skelter in a summer swelter

The birds flew off with a fallout shelter

Eight miles high and falling fast

It landed foul on the grass

The players tried for a forward pass

With the jester on the sidelines in a cast

Now the half-time air was sweet perfume

While sergeants played a marching tune

We all got up to dance

Oh, but we never got the chance

'Cause the players tried to take the field

The marching band refused to yield

Do you recall what was revealed

The day the music died?

We started singin'

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

And singin' this'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

Oh, and there we were all in one place

A generation lost in space

With no time left to start again

So come on Jack be nimble, Jack be quick

Jack Flash sat on a candlestick

'Cause fire is the devil's only friend

Oh and as I watched him on the stage

My hands were clenched in fists of rage

No angel born in Hell

Could break that Satan's spell

--

And as the flames climbed high into the night

To light the sacrificial rite

I saw Satan laughing with delight

The day the music died

He was singin'

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

Singin' this'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

I met a girl who sang the blues

And I asked her for some happy news

But she just smiled and turned away

I went down to the sacred store

Where I'd heard the music years before

But the man there said the music wouldn't play

And in the streets the children screamed

The lovers cried, and the poets dreamed

But not a word was spoken

The church bells all were broken

And the three men I admire most

The Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost

They caught the last train for the coast

The day the music died

And they were singing

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

And them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

Singin' this'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

They were singing

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

Singin' this'll be the day that I die

Jos joku oikeasti tajuaa mitä tässä sanotaan, kertokaa minullekin. Osaan englantia kyllä, mutta en silti tajua yhtään mikä tämän biisin pointti on. Olen kuullut kappaleen varmaan sata kertaa, eikä se ole yhtään selvempi nyt kuin ensimmäisellä kerralla. Olen tullut siihen tulokseen, että sen ainoa merkitys on tämä:

As the original manuscript for Don McLean's 1971 classic is sold at auction, fans may finally discover what his "Song of the Century" is really about. So what are the popular theories?

When people ask Don McLean what does American Pie really mean, he likes to reply: "It means I never have to work again."

”The day that music died” on 2.3.1959. Päivä jona Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens ja JP Richardson kuolivat lento-onnettomuudessa. Laulu kertoo siitä.

Ja seuraavasta vuosikymmenestä.

Suurlähettiläiden Kun tänään lähden -biisin alku:

Oven kiinni laitan ja katson eteiseen.

Naulakko sinne yksin jää.

Miksi laittaa ensin oven kiinni? Ei silloin voi enää nähdä naulakkoa.

Nämä ne vasta on hämärät sanat:

It's on America's tortured brow

That Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow

Now the workers have struck for fame

'Cause Lennon's on sale again

David Bowie, Life on Mars?

Vierailija kirjoitti:

Suurlähettiläiden Kun tänään lähden -biisin alku:

Oven kiinni laitan ja katson eteiseen.

Naulakko sinne yksin jää.

Miksi laittaa ensin oven kiinni? Ei silloin voi enää nähdä naulakkoa.

Ikkuna?

Dingon ja Zen Cafen sanoitukset ovat pääosin sekavaa huttua. Haloo Helsinki on myös huono.

"Sä olet kyllästynyt kalman tuoksuun kalseaan ja tuikkaat lastenhuoneen nalleverhot palamaan on kuin oisi päässyt aurinkoa katsomaan"

Tupacin sanat ja hörinä ei tee lausetta, ei siitä hörinästä ymmärrä mitään vaikka plisi sanoitukset vieressä. Onnneksi on uusi rap artisti dax joka puhuu selvemmin rappiä kuin kamelienKesyttäjä 2paChiliVaras.

Vierailija kirjoitti:

Vierailija kirjoitti:

Suurlähettiläiden Kun tänään lähden -biisin alku:

Oven kiinni laitan ja katson eteiseen.

Naulakko sinne yksin jää.

Miksi laittaa ensin oven kiinni? Ei silloin voi enää nähdä naulakkoa.

Ikkuna?

Omakotitaloissa on myös ihan tavallista, että ovessa on lasiaukko. Tämä tuo oman lisänsä kappaleen tulkintaan, koska olisi eri asia lähteä kerrostaloasunnosta. Olen aina mieltänyt, että kappaleessa on kyse lapsuudenkodin jättämisestä pikkukaupungissa, minkä vuoksi siinä on toiveikas tunnelma. Kertojaa mietityttää, pitäisikö tuntea jonkinlaista haikeutta, mutta kaipuu omaan elämään on niin suuri, että mieluummin katsoo vain eteenpäin.

Toinen asia on sitten se, että ensimmäisessä säkeistössä sanotaan "En vastaantulijoista tunne yhtäkään" ja toisessa taas joku kertoilee kuulumisia, mikä tekee lähdöstä helpompaa. Mutta ehkä sanoitus on vain tehty yleisesti lähtemisestä siten, että siihen voi samaistua monenlaisissa tilanteissa.

Vierailija kirjoitti:

Juicen biisit ovat monitulkintaisia ja täynnä sanoilla leikittelyä

Niinpä, varmaan puolet Juicen tuotannosta sopisi tänne jos oikein alkaa miettiä, esim.

Minä riisun kengät pois

Sillä sinä olet palava pensas

Hautajaiset seis, vainaja puuttuu

Oasis: ’And after all you’re my wonderwall.’

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I can't remember if I cried

When I read about his widowed bride

Something touched me deep inside

The day the music died

So

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

And them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

Singin' this'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

--

Now, for ten years we've been on our own

And moss grows fat on a rolling stone

But, that's not how it used to be

When the jester sang for the king and queen

In a coat he borrowed from James Dean

And a voice that came from you and me

Oh and while the king was looking down

The jester stole his thorny crown

The courtroom was adjourned

No verdict was returned

And while Lennon read a book on Marx

The quartet practiced in the park

And we sang dirges in the dark

The day the music died

We were singin'

--

Helter skelter in a summer swelter

The birds flew off with a fallout shelter

Eight miles high and falling fast

It landed foul on the grass

The players tried for a forward pass

With the jester on the sidelines in a cast

Now the half-time air was sweet perfume

While sergeants played a marching tune

We all got up to dance

Oh, but we never got the chance

'Cause the players tried to take the field

The marching band refused to yield

Do you recall what was revealed

The day the music died?

We started singin'

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

And singin' this'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

Oh, and there we were all in one place

A generation lost in space

With no time left to start again

So come on Jack be nimble, Jack be quick

Jack Flash sat on a candlestick

'Cause fire is the devil's only friend

Oh and as I watched him on the stage

My hands were clenched in fists of rage

No angel born in Hell

Could break that Satan's spell

--

And as the flames climbed high into the night

To light the sacrificial rite

I saw Satan laughing with delight

The day the music died

He was singin'

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

Singin' this'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

I met a girl who sang the blues

And I asked her for some happy news

But she just smiled and turned away

I went down to the sacred store

Where I'd heard the music years before

But the man there said the music wouldn't play

And in the streets the children screamed

The lovers cried, and the poets dreamed

But not a word was spoken

The church bells all were broken

And the three men I admire most

The Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost

They caught the last train for the coast

The day the music died

And they were singing

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

And them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

Singin' this'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

They were singing

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

Singin' this'll be the day that I die

Jos joku oikeasti tajuaa mitä tässä sanotaan, kertokaa minullekin. Osaan englantia kyllä, mutta en silti tajua yhtään mikä tämän biisin pointti on. Olen kuullut kappaleen varmaan sata kertaa, eikä se ole yhtään selvempi nyt kuin ensimmäisellä kerralla. Olen tullut siihen tulokseen, että sen ainoa merkitys on tämä:

As the original manuscript for Don McLean's 1971 classic is sold at auction, fans may finally discover what his "Song of the Century" is really about. So what are the popular theories?

When people ask Don McLean what does American Pie really mean, he likes to reply: "It means I never have to work again."

”The day that music died” on 2.3.1959. Päivä jona Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens ja JP Richardson kuolivat lento-onnettomuudessa. Laulu kertoo siitä.

Ja seuraavasta vuosikymmenestä.

En ymmärrä siltikään. Tässä juuri nähdään, että kaikki eivät vaan osaa nauttia runoudesta samalla tavalla. Vaikka nyt ajattelisin, että tuo yksi päivä on tuo 2.3.1959, muut lyriikat eivät silti merkitse minulle yhtään mitään. Kuka se Miss American Pie sitten on?

Toisaalta ehkä niin on parempi. Ymmärrän mielestäni hyvin mitä esim Popedan sanoitukset tarkoittavat, enkä arvosta niitä yhtään enempää sen takia.

"Mulla juu juu juustossa löytyy, sitä kaikille mä jaan sen te tuutte huomaamaan"

Ihan ymmärrettävässä muodossa toki nuo sanat mutta mikä helvetin laulunaihe tuo on?

Reino Helismaan "Balladi villistä lännestä" lauletaan yhdessä kohdassa näin

"Niin puolen tunnin ajan pyssyt paukkui yhtenään.

Ei kumpainenkaan ehtinyt ees rullaa täyttämään."

Kuinka helvetin isot rullat niiden revolvereissa oli kun niitä pystyi puoli tuntia yhtenään paukuttamaan täyttämättä välillä?

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I can't remember if I cried

When I read about his widowed bride

Something touched me deep inside

The day the music died

So

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

And them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

Singin' this'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

--

Now, for ten years we've been on our own

And moss grows fat on a rolling stone

But, that's not how it used to be

When the jester sang for the king and queen

In a coat he borrowed from James Dean

And a voice that came from you and me

Oh and while the king was looking down

The jester stole his thorny crown

The courtroom was adjourned

No verdict was returned

And while Lennon read a book on Marx

The quartet practiced in the park

And we sang dirges in the dark

The day the music died

We were singin'

--

Helter skelter in a summer swelter

The birds flew off with a fallout shelter

Eight miles high and falling fast

It landed foul on the grass

The players tried for a forward pass

With the jester on the sidelines in a cast

Now the half-time air was sweet perfume

While sergeants played a marching tune

We all got up to dance

Oh, but we never got the chance

'Cause the players tried to take the field

The marching band refused to yield

Do you recall what was revealed

The day the music died?

We started singin'

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

And singin' this'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

Oh, and there we were all in one place

A generation lost in space

With no time left to start again

So come on Jack be nimble, Jack be quick

Jack Flash sat on a candlestick

'Cause fire is the devil's only friend

Oh and as I watched him on the stage

My hands were clenched in fists of rage

No angel born in Hell

Could break that Satan's spell

--

And as the flames climbed high into the night

To light the sacrificial rite

I saw Satan laughing with delight

The day the music died

He was singin'

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

Singin' this'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

I met a girl who sang the blues

And I asked her for some happy news

But she just smiled and turned away

I went down to the sacred store

Where I'd heard the music years before

But the man there said the music wouldn't play

And in the streets the children screamed

The lovers cried, and the poets dreamed

But not a word was spoken

The church bells all were broken

And the three men I admire most

The Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost

They caught the last train for the coast

The day the music died

And they were singing

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

And them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

Singin' this'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

They were singing

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

Singin' this'll be the day that I die

Jos joku oikeasti tajuaa mitä tässä sanotaan, kertokaa minullekin. Osaan englantia kyllä, mutta en silti tajua yhtään mikä tämän biisin pointti on. Olen kuullut kappaleen varmaan sata kertaa, eikä se ole yhtään selvempi nyt kuin ensimmäisellä kerralla. Olen tullut siihen tulokseen, että sen ainoa merkitys on tämä:

As the original manuscript for Don McLean's 1971 classic is sold at auction, fans may finally discover what his "Song of the Century" is really about. So what are the popular theories?

When people ask Don McLean what does American Pie really mean, he likes to reply: "It means I never have to work again."

”The day that music died” on 2.3.1959. Päivä jona Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens ja JP Richardson kuolivat lento-onnettomuudessa. Laulu kertoo siitä.

Ja seuraavasta vuosikymmenestä.

En ymmärrä siltikään. Tässä juuri nähdään, että kaikki eivät vaan osaa nauttia runoudesta samalla tavalla. Vaikka nyt ajattelisin, että tuo yksi päivä on tuo 2.3.1959, muut lyriikat eivät silti merkitse minulle yhtään mitään. Kuka se Miss American Pie sitten on?

Toisaalta ehkä niin on parempi. Ymmärrän mielestäni hyvin mitä esim Popedan sanoitukset tarkoittavat, enkä arvosta niitä yhtään enempää sen takia.

Jokainen kokee miten haluaa.

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I can't remember if I cried

When I read about his widowed bride

Something touched me deep inside

The day the music died

So

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

And them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

Singin' this'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

--

Now, for ten years we've been on our own

And moss grows fat on a rolling stone

But, that's not how it used to be

When the jester sang for the king and queen

In a coat he borrowed from James Dean

And a voice that came from you and me

Oh and while the king was looking down

The jester stole his thorny crown

The courtroom was adjourned

No verdict was returned

And while Lennon read a book on Marx

The quartet practiced in the park

And we sang dirges in the dark

The day the music died

We were singin'

--

Helter skelter in a summer swelter

The birds flew off with a fallout shelter

Eight miles high and falling fast

It landed foul on the grass

The players tried for a forward pass

With the jester on the sidelines in a cast

Now the half-time air was sweet perfume

While sergeants played a marching tune

We all got up to dance

Oh, but we never got the chance

'Cause the players tried to take the field

The marching band refused to yield

Do you recall what was revealed

The day the music died?

We started singin'

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

And singin' this'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

Oh, and there we were all in one place

A generation lost in space

With no time left to start again

So come on Jack be nimble, Jack be quick

Jack Flash sat on a candlestick

'Cause fire is the devil's only friend

Oh and as I watched him on the stage

My hands were clenched in fists of rage

No angel born in Hell

Could break that Satan's spell

--

And as the flames climbed high into the night

To light the sacrificial rite

I saw Satan laughing with delight

The day the music died

He was singin'

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

Singin' this'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

I met a girl who sang the blues

And I asked her for some happy news

But she just smiled and turned away

I went down to the sacred store

Where I'd heard the music years before

But the man there said the music wouldn't play

And in the streets the children screamed

The lovers cried, and the poets dreamed

But not a word was spoken

The church bells all were broken

And the three men I admire most

The Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost

They caught the last train for the coast

The day the music died

And they were singing

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

And them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

Singin' this'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

They were singing

Bye, bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye

Singin' this'll be the day that I die

Jos joku oikeasti tajuaa mitä tässä sanotaan, kertokaa minullekin. Osaan englantia kyllä, mutta en silti tajua yhtään mikä tämän biisin pointti on. Olen kuullut kappaleen varmaan sata kertaa, eikä se ole yhtään selvempi nyt kuin ensimmäisellä kerralla. Olen tullut siihen tulokseen, että sen ainoa merkitys on tämä:

As the original manuscript for Don McLean's 1971 classic is sold at auction, fans may finally discover what his "Song of the Century" is really about. So what are the popular theories?

When people ask Don McLean what does American Pie really mean, he likes to reply: "It means I never have to work again."

Samanlainen biisi kuin Subterranean Homesick Blues, It's The End of The World As We Know It ja We Didn't Start The Fire. Luetellaan historiallisia tapahtumia tajunnanvirtana.

Vierailija kirjoitti:

Eveliinan Tornado:

"Mut tänään ei oo huomista

Hengityksen tahdissa

Laita mut liikkuu, niinku tornado"

Toi liikkua kuin tornado. Tornadohan pyörii? Pistetäänkö laulussa akka pyörimään julmetusti? :D

Ei vaan se, joka laittaa liikkumaan, on niin kuin tornado. Eikö tornado saa aika monen asian liikkumaan. 

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"Mä päätin leffaan lähtee katsomaan uutta tähtee

kun sut siellä näin kanssa jonkun muun"

Eli ajatusketju meni näin: "Mitä, tuo on tuolla jonkun toisen kanssa - oho, jännännäköinen leffa ja uusi tähti, pitääpä käydä katsomassa."

Eihän ne sanat edes mene noin, vaan näin:

"Mä päätin leffaan lähtee, katsomaan uutta tähtee

Kun mä sinne tuun, ootkin kanssa jonkun muun."

Eli aivan järkevää.